Kioti 2610 or xg3025

   / Kioti 2610 or xg3025 #11  
You only pay 1.5% tax??? Wow that must be nice!

no tax here.... or Oregon :D

Looks like you are getting good prices (I guess the free loader is not on this model although the website is very confusing because it list its CK series old models)

This is from the Kioti site
Promotional Period: October 1 – December 31, 2017
Eligible Units: CK20S, CK20SH, CK27, CK27H, CK30, CK30H, CK35, CK35H, All DKSE Models, DK55, DK90, All DK10 models, all DS models, all PX models, all NX models and all RX models.

When I went to my local Kioti dealer this spring they didn't have a computer in sight and when I asked about things like "free loader and rebates" they told me "their are none right now". I told them the kioti site has them listed, and the response was "i dont think they apply to this model". The quotes I got were insanely high and they were doing things like putting the larger KL4010 loader on the ck2610 which was quoted at over 20k... I lost all faith in them... otherwise I probably would have bought a Kioti because the dealer is within a couple miles from my house.
 
   / Kioti 2610 or xg3025 #12  
I hope you are not buying KIOTI from the dealer in Ellisville, MS. I do not recommend them, very poor customer service, I went there with my trailer to look at buying a tractor, I stood outside looking around at tractors for well over an hour and not a single sales rep came out to see if I needed some assistance. Walked inside thinking they must have been swamped with customers, only one customer in there and three employees. On top of that, do you think even once after I walked inside the building that they asked if I needed help, of course not. So after I asked some older fellow that I was interested in getting a tractor, he just acted like he couldn't have cared if he ever sold another tractor. Maybe that was just a bad day for them, but I will never go back there, I got in my truck and left. I had the trailer with me, I probably would have given them my money if they had show any interest in selling me a tractor.
 
   / Kioti 2610 or xg3025
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#13  
The 1.5% is a special farm tax if you meet certain requirements. Normally 7%. And yes those prices are from ellisville auto supply. Watts brothers in Columbia is the same price. Watts has been around a long time but ellisville was closer to go look.
 
   / Kioti 2610 or xg3025 #14  
Cost was a huge factor from the beginning.
Then we were told to consider what each tractor could do & only compare the equal size, not just the cost.

Our LS has proven itself in the 200+ hours & about 18 months of ownership.

On the negative side our LS dealer 150 miles south of us, closed.
Found a Kabota dealer selling LS units out their back door. Not one LS in their show room or in their o/s front inventory. 40miles south

Keep in mind these tractors are just (usually) not used as our trucks/cars & being simple there's a lot less to go down.

Good luck in your search & now is the time to learn much from different owners who use their tractors.
 
   / Kioti 2610 or xg3025 #15  
This is a great subject and something that I have been spending tons of time researching in the last 2 weeks. I am in the hunt for a larger frame tractor without tier 4 emissions. The XG3025, CK2610, and L2501 are on the top of my list. I agree with the others about all 3 being great tractors, but I want to share my personal pros and cons as well as the price differences that I've been finding.

XG 3025 shuttle with loader: closest dealer quoted my 16,800. When I told him he needed to be in the low 15's to beat the Kioti and Kubota, he seemed stymied, but was going to refer to the owner to see if he could do it. I told him that it was a cash deal and that the others knock $1200-$1400 off right away. When I got home and did some digging, I could find a brand ne model 4.5hrs away (Detroit area) for $14975. Significant difference especially when he is selling a slightly older model with a 5 year instead of 6 year warranty. I think he is confused and has not given me the cash discount, but I will find out for sure when he calls back.

Now about the pros and cons. This tractor as a shuttle shift pretty much destroyed the others. Why? Fully synchronize shifting - shift on the fly like a car. Reverser on the dash makes it even better. The others require a complete stop. The other huge winner on this tractor was the independent PTO. When the yellow nob was turned to on, the PTO spins regardless of what you do with the clutch pedal (I checked).Going to be very useful for brush hogging in the thick when you need to clutch. So far, the place that it loses is in the local price. I have emails out to others closer, but it's the weekend, so no response yet. Another negative is that dealers seem to come and go with the seasons. Also, no midpoint PTO option that I can find.

Kioti KK2610: This is a fine tractor that runs and looks great. $15200 was the quote for shuttle and loader. Local dealer seems super knowledgeable and appears to have a solid business that isn't going anywhere.really, the only bad thing here is that I feel you need to tack $1100 on and get the hydro to compete with the great tranny and independent PTO on the LS. When you push the clutch in, the PTO stops on the shuttle. The only gears that are synchronized are when you shift from 2nd to reverse. Handy, but not as flexible as the LS. A pro is that you can add a mid mount PTO at any time for $350 installed (unless you have a hoe). However, the only option for the mid PTO is a snow blower. Rumor abounds that there may be a mower, but no solid info. I don't necessarily want the mid mower, but nice to know it's an option. When I go to do some final dealing on this tractor, I'll go for the hydro. Just my opinion as many others love the shuttle on this one.

Kubota L2501. Price quoted for shuttle with loader was $15,700. This was claimed to be year end only, so I may have missed this price. Also, I am told to be in favor with this dealer since the company I work for bought a couple of Kubotas from them to see how they compete against Bobcats. All the comments for the Kioti apply here except that ther is no mid PTO option available at all. Dead pto, and must stop to shift. This tractor for whatever reason still gave me a big smile to test drive. It is a contender also, but for me, it will be a hydro, so add $1000.

Couple other things. I drove all of these tractors in single digit temps and to there credit, they all started and ran well. The 2nd time I drove the Kioti the fuel gelled, but it was below zero and the tractor hadn't been run in a week or 2 since the last time I had been there. I tried pricing a Mahindra 1526, but they were out in left field at $17090. Mid mount mower was available, so that was a plus, but I just didn't care as much for the look and feel of it as I did for the others.

Good luck if you are looking at either of the 3. In about 5 or 6 weeks I'll have a new pole building. I'll let you know what I buy and for how much!
 
   / Kioti 2610 or xg3025 #16  
Kioti KK2610: This is a fine tractor that runs and looks great. $15200 was the quote for shuttle and loader. Local dealer seems super knowledgeable and appears to have a solid business that isn't going anywhere.really, the only bad thing here is that I feel you need to tack $1100 on and get the hydro to compete with the great tranny and independent PTO on the LS. When you push the clutch in, the PTO stops on the shuttle. The only gears that are synchronized are when you shift from 2nd to reverse. Handy, but not as flexible as the LS. A pro is that you can add a mid mount PTO at any time for $350 installed (unless you have a hoe). However, the only option for the mid PTO is a snow blower. Rumor abounds that there may be a mower, but no solid info. I don't necessarily want the mid mower, but nice to know it's an option. When I go to do some final dealing on this tractor, I'll go for the hydro. Just my opinion as many others love the shuttle on this one.

Unless they changed something from the older CK series to the newer CKxx10 series (and looking at the specs it shouldn't have) the 2610 should have a 2 stage clutch. Meaning press half way & you've "clutched" enough to shift gears but the PTO keeps right on spinning. Pressing the pedal ALL the way will still disengage the PTO. It takes a little getting used to because there isn't a very obvious feel when you reach the half way point - just a slight change in pedal resistance.

I still wish we added hydro about 90% of the time but the 2 stage clutch is a MAJOR step up from the old Ford 8N (and override clutch) when time comes to mow so I won't complain.

When we were shopping I really liked what I read & could see online about the LS, we just didn't have a dealer close enough.

Oh BTW - Welcome to TBN. :) Be sure to come back & share pix of that new Pole Building too. I have a major case of storage envy right now. LOL
 
   / Kioti 2610 or xg3025 #17  
This is a great subject and something that I have been spending tons of time researching in the last 2 weeks. I am in the hunt for a larger frame tractor without tier 4 emissions. The XG3025, CK2610, and L2501 are on the top of my list. I agree with the others about all 3 being great tractors, but I want to share my personal pros and cons as well as the price differences that I've been finding.

XG 3025 shuttle with loader: closest dealer quoted my 16,800. When I told him he needed to be in the low 15's to beat the Kioti and Kubota, he seemed stymied, but was going to refer to the owner to see if he could do it. I told him that it was a cash deal and that the others knock $1200-$1400 off right away. When I got home and did some digging, I could find a brand ne model 4.5hrs away (Detroit area) for $14975. Significant difference especially when he is selling a slightly older model with a 5 year instead of 6 year warranty. I think he is confused and has not given me the cash discount, but I will find out for sure when he calls back.

Now about the pros and cons. This tractor as a shuttle shift pretty much destroyed the others. Why? Fully synchronize shifting - shift on the fly like a car. Reverser on the dash makes it even better. The others require a complete stop. The other huge winner on this tractor was the independent PTO. When the yellow nob was turned to on, the PTO spins regardless of what you do with the clutch pedal (I checked).Going to be very useful for brush hogging in the thick when you need to clutch. So far, the place that it loses is in the local price. I have emails out to others closer, but it's the weekend, so no response yet. Another negative is that dealers seem to come and go with the seasons. Also, no midpoint PTO option that I can find.

Kioti KK2610: This is a fine tractor that runs and looks great. $15200 was the quote for shuttle and loader. Local dealer seems super knowledgeable and appears to have a solid business that isn't going anywhere.really, the only bad thing here is that I feel you need to tack $1100 on and get the hydro to compete with the great tranny and independent PTO on the LS. When you push the clutch in, the PTO stops on the shuttle. The only gears that are synchronized are when you shift from 2nd to reverse. Handy, but not as flexible as the LS. A pro is that you can add a mid mount PTO at any time for $350 installed (unless you have a hoe). However, the only option for the mid PTO is a snow blower. Rumor abounds that there may be a mower, but no solid info. I don't necessarily want the mid mower, but nice to know it's an option. When I go to do some final dealing on this tractor, I'll go for the hydro. Just my opinion as many others love the shuttle on this one.

Kubota L2501. Price quoted for shuttle with loader was $15,700. This was claimed to be year end only, so I may have missed this price. Also, I am told to be in favor with this dealer since the company I work for bought a couple of Kubotas from them to see how they compete against Bobcats. All the comments for the Kioti apply here except that ther is no mid PTO option available at all. Dead pto, and must stop to shift. This tractor for whatever reason still gave me a big smile to test drive. It is a contender also, but for me, it will be a hydro, so add $1000.

Couple other things. I drove all of these tractors in single digit temps and to there credit, they all started and ran well. The 2nd time I drove the Kioti the fuel gelled, but it was below zero and the tractor hadn't been run in a week or 2 since the last time I had been there. I tried pricing a Mahindra 1526, but they were out in left field at $17090. Mid mount mower was available, so that was a plus, but I just didn't care as much for the look and feel of it as I did for the others.

Good luck if you are looking at either of the 3. In about 5 or 6 weeks I'll have a new pole building. I'll let you know what I buy and for how much!

Check with Eden Tractor in Eden,NY. (LS dealer) Under 3 hours from you. Small dealer but has been great to deal with. Small farming town with plenty of LS tractors.

Also, I don't think LS offers a "cash" discount. Their tractors are priced to sell. There seems to be a slight difference depending on region but thats it. If you find one way out of the norm, high or low, I'd be wary. There is a "free" loader program but that's all that I am aware of.
 
   / Kioti 2610 or xg3025 #18  
Thanks for the welcome to the forum - actually have been a reader for a very long time, but this is the first that I've contributed.

As far as the Kioti 2610 shuttle, the dealer insisted that it wasn't a 2 stage. He didn't have a shuttle 2610, but he did have a shuttle 2510 that I drove. I can't say that I actually checked by engaging the PTO. I did question whether the mid PTO also stopped when the clutch was engaged. He checked with the factory and they verified the mid PTO stops when the clutch is pushed in (no mid installed on the model I drove). I have to believe it would be the same for the rear PTO. If anyone has a 2610 shuttle and know for sure, feel free to chime in.

Major updates on the pricing for the shuttle XG3025 with loader. A dealer 3 hours from me said $14600, and another 2 hours from me said $14500.t. Another dealer 1 hour away said $15900, and the original dealer came down from $16800 to $16400 (nice guy, but I felt it was my duty to explain how high on price he was). I believe that I will go with the 2 hour $14500 guy. He also told me that he has a 2016 XG3032 hydro with 57 hours, ag tires (filled), canopy, and loader. Would sell for $15000. I told him if he still had it in a month, I would check it out. Not sure what I think about the DEF. I've heard people say that their tractor runs like garbage for an hour when it regenerates. I also like the idea of industrial tires because once or twice a year I have considered driving 13 mi to brush hog some land that I own. (Back roads - 4 dirt/9 paved). I could always borrow my dad's trailer, but more time in the tractor seat is a good thing! Opinions welcome.

I will certainly be happy to post pics of the pole building when it is done!

On a side note, one of the dealers that I spoke with said the LS is the only one of the 3 to use cast iron. I believe he said the others use pot metal and that the quality difference is significant. First I'd heard that.

At this time, I am leaning heavily toward the XG3025 shuttle for $14500 with the dealer 2 hrs away.
 
   / Kioti 2610 or xg3025 #19  
....and I'll give Eden tractor a call, but I think I have a winner at the moment. Thanks for the suggestion.
 
   / Kioti 2610 or xg3025 #20  
Thanks for the welcome to the forum - actually have been a reader for a very long time, but this is the first that I've contributed.

As far as the Kioti 2610 shuttle, the dealer insisted that it wasn't a 2 stage. He didn't have a shuttle 2610, but he did have a shuttle 2510 that I drove. I can't say that I actually checked by engaging the PTO. I did question whether the mid PTO also stopped when the clutch was engaged. He checked with the factory and they verified the mid PTO stops when the clutch is pushed in (no mid installed on the model I drove). I have to believe it would be the same for the rear PTO. If anyone has a 2610 shuttle and know for sure, feel free to chime in.

Major updates on the pricing for the shuttle XG3025 with loader. A dealer 3 hours from me said $14600, and another 2 hours from me said $14500.t. Another dealer 1 hour away said $15900, and the original dealer came down from $16800 to $16400 (nice guy, but I felt it was my duty to explain how high on price he was). I believe that I will go with the 2 hour $14500 guy. He also told me that he has a 2016 XG3032 hydro with 57 hours, ag tires (filled), canopy, and loader. Would sell for $15000. I told him if he still had it in a month, I would check it out. Not sure what I think about the DEF. I've heard people say that their tractor runs like garbage for an hour when it regenerates. I also like the idea of industrial tires because once or twice a year I have considered driving 13 mi to brush hog some land that I own. (Back roads - 4 dirt/9 paved). I could always borrow my dad's trailer, but more time in the tractor seat is a good thing! Opinions welcome.

I will certainly be happy to post pics of the pole building when it is done!

On a side note, one of the dealers that I spoke with said the LS is the only one of the 3 to use cast iron. I believe he said the others use pot metal and that the quality difference is significant. First I'd heard that.

At this time, I am leaning heavily toward the XG3025 shuttle for $14500 with the dealer 2 hrs away.

DEF is Diesel Exhaust Fluid. None of these tractors use it. I think you mean DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter) that uses the regen to burn off the particles. My LS 3135 regens about every 50 hours typically 15 to 20 minutes and hasn't slowed my down from using it during the regen.
 

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