Kioti CS2410 with splitfire log splitter

[rmryanjr]

I think you're right Piston. The rig will take 90% of the stuff I feed it so I think I'll be making myself happy. Next tractor I get, I'll be checking the hydraulics better though.

I'm glad I found this thread, because I was looking at log splitters
for my cs2410. Too bad it's not working for you. I had a thought that the
Hydraulics wouldn't be high enough to run a splitter. I really would like find a screw type PTO
Splitter. The only one I like is manufactured in the UK and can't seem to find if it's sold in the US.

 

[Steve_Miller]

Here is a chart for force of a cylinder with both extending and retracting forces. There tons of these on the net.

Steve

 

[milkman]

I'm glad I found this thread, because I was looking at log splitters
for my cs2410. Too bad it's not working for you. I had a thought that the
Hydraulics wouldn't be high enough to run a splitter. I really would like find a screw type PTO
Splitter. The only one I like is manufactured in the UK and can't seem to find if it's sold in the US.

The screw type splitters for the PTO have not been sold new here since the '70s. I wanted one for years and finally found one on CL for $120. People are scared of them, but just use common sense like any machine. It is different and I enjoy running it.

 

[Steve_Miller]

I knew a guy that lost an arm up to the shoulder using one of those things. This was thirty some years ago when guards and safety weren't so prominent. He reached over the screw for some reason and his old dangling jack shirt caught and started winding in the block of wood and he couldn't reach the PTO lever as it pulled him in until it tore his arm off just above the elbow. Gruesome, stupid, inatentive, call it what you like but a two second lapse in judgement cost him dearly.


Steve

 

[rmryanjr]

I knew a guy that lost an arm up to the shoulder using one of those things. This was thirty some years ago when guards and safety weren't so prominent. He reached over the screw for some reason and his old dangling jack shirt caught and started winding in the block of wood and he couldn't reach the PTO lever as it pulled him in until it tore his arm off just above the elbow. Gruesome, stupid, inatentive, call it what you like but a two second lapse in judgement cost him dearly.


Steve

Steve,

Thanks for the story. I considered myself a pretty safe guy since I worked for a
company that preached Safety , Safety, safety.
I'm surprised I didn't see that if it caught any clothing it could pull you
right in. wow
I buy my wood split right now but want to buy full logs and cut/split myself. I haven't
figured out if it would be cost effective or time v/s cost yet. This is the first year that I'll be using
about 5 cords.

Thanks again,
Bob

 

[Michjim6464]

Could it be that the (on or around 1-29-14) it was very cold in Michigan?
That whole week was VERY cold out. Temps never topped 15 degrees.

 

[Michjim6464]

We do agree about one thing.

I just seen this review and it appears that you may have needed a (much larger) 35-50HP tractor for your 4 acre plot and other needs and may have pushed the 2410 beyond its limitations.

And the cs2410 (based on your review) was not given a fair assessment.


Kioti CS2410 Review by Tim Shufflin - TractorByNet.com

 

[timshufflin]

We do agree about one thing.

I just seen this review and it appears that you may have needed a (much larger) 35-50HP tractor for your 4 acre plot and other needs and may have pushed the 2410 beyond its limitations.

And the cs2410 (based on your review) was not given a fair assessment.


Kioti CS2410 Review by Tim Shufflin - TractorByNet.com

Well, let's discus it, what wasn't fair about my "assessment"? If you have a .2 acre garden or a 4 acre garden, how does/should the review differ? What wasn't fair about the review? The things that have failed on the tractor would have failed if I had a 2 acre homestead or a 100 acre farm.

The drawbacks of this tractor are about time being used, not size of acreage. I put just over 100 hours on my tractor last year, is that so much? Of those 120 hours about 90 hours were just mowing the lawn. Having roller wheel retainer clips and grease fittings fall off and knocked off is not about the size of the lawn but about Time In Use. They fall off over Time In Use when the vulnerable areas of these items are not in a good location. My Simplicity Legacy is a much smaller tractor and I never once lost a deck roller wheel and I have 700 hours on that machine. Come to think of it, the Simplicity only had one mechanical failure, the right steering bearing on the axle gave out after about 7 years.

The log splitter issue, the tractor review, were not ever reported by me until I had used this tractor for a good amount of time. Why would I wait? Because only a fool jumps on a piece of machinery and rates its performance half cocked. A review has to be about overall performance over time, my Kioti wins in some areas and falls short in others.

By the way, my dealer specifically suggested the log splitter I have as the perfect splitter for this tractor. If a Kioti dealer thinks this is the splitter to have then shouldn't I believe that it is? Again, if you have a half acre or 200 acres of woods, shouldn't the splitter be able to split a basic stick of wood efficiently?

Everything I have for my tractor was sold to me by my dealer as an item that this tractor could handle. I've had IHC super C's that had less HP than this tractor BUT they had the ground clearance. Ground clearance, Cruise control failure and Injection pump failures has been the real drawback of this tractor, not HP.

By the way, I have 32 acres, not 4. I just garden, plant, cultivate, plow, 4 acres.

Edit post, my simplicity did lose a roller wheel once, it took 10 years to do it though.

 

[rider7767]

Well, let's discus it, what wasn't fair about my "assessment"? If you have a .2 acre garden or a 4 acre garden, how does/should the review differ? What wasn't fair about the review? The things that have failed on the tractor would have failed if I had a 2 acre homestead or a 100 acre farm.

The drawbacks of this tractor are about time being used, not size of acreage. I put just over 100 hours on my tractor last year, is that so much? Of those 120 hours about 90 hours were just mowing the lawn. Having roller wheel retainer clips and grease fittings fall off and knocked off is not about the size of the lawn but about Time In Use. They fall off over Time In Use when the vulnerable areas of these items are not in a good location. My Simplicity Legacy is a much smaller tractor and I never once lost a deck roller wheel and I have 700 hours on that machine. Come to think of it, the Simplicity only had one mechanical failure, the right steering bearing on the axle gave out after about 7 years.

The log splitter issue, the tractor review, were not ever reported by me until I had used this tractor for a good amount of time. Why would I wait? Because only a fool jumps on a piece of machinery and rates its performance half cocked. A review has to be about overall performance over time, my Kioti wins in some areas and falls short in others.

By the way, my dealer specifically suggested the log splitter I have as the perfect splitter for this tractor. If a Kioti dealer thinks this is the splitter to have then shouldn't I believe that it is? Again, if you have a half acre or 200 acres of woods, shouldn't the splitter be able to split a basic stick of wood efficiently?

Everything I have for my tractor was sold to me by my dealer as an item that this tractor could handle. I've had IHC super C's that had less HP than this tractor BUT they had the ground clearance. Ground clearance, Cruise control failure and Injection pump failures has been the real drawback of this tractor, not HP.

By the way, I have 32 acres, not 4. I just garden, plant, cultivate, plow, 4 acres.

Edit post, my simplicity did lose a roller wheel once, it took 10 years to do it though.

I thought you gave an insightful well thought out review. I looked at the CS2410, but I hate buying the first few years of anything. It takes a few years to work out the kinks. I ended up going with the CK20S. Great to have you on board.

 

[timshufflin]

Bringing back this thread, I have the same splitfire logsplitter is described on page 2 of this thread. I'm upgrading to the CK2510 which does NOT list the pressure for the pump. I'm assuming that it's about 24 to 35 percent more, maybe 2200 to 2300 PSI. You all think the CK2510 will be a vast improvement or not? I'm making the leap because the CK is higher and now has the Mid mower.