Kioti - Good, Bad or Indifferent

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   / Kioti - Good, Bad or Indifferent #51  
Regardless of the brand, issues with your tractor would become real problems if you don't have the dealer support.. The dealer is your best asset, especially if your like me and know very little about tractors...cag
 
   / Kioti - Good, Bad or Indifferent #52  
Nuke,

You MUST read the DK55 Axle Fix thread and all the threads about the DK55 smoking that can't be fixed and the threads about the DK55 and KL1595 loader issues.

Also, remember that most of these pro Kioti posts come from Kioti owners with 600 or less hours. Where are the 5,000+ hour Kioti tractor posts??

I had a Kioti. I tried to work with Kioti to resolve my issues with no luck. I sold the Kioti (almost gave it away) and bought a John Deere. In My Opinion, having owned both tractors, the John Deere is a much better tractor and is way more capable.

You have to make the decision that's right for you. I've added my experience to help you decide.
 
   / Kioti - Good, Bad or Indifferent #53  
Donny,

At the moment, The link isn't working for me.....although a screen shot is worth many words. :)

Don
 

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   / Kioti - Good, Bad or Indifferent #54  
ocaj11 said:
Also, remember that most of these pro Kioti posts come from Kioti owners with 600 or less hours. Where are the 5,000+ hour Kioti tractor posts??

They're all to busy using their tractors.....
 
   / Kioti - Good, Bad or Indifferent #55  
What I've leaned form this thread: in this age of "tractor political correctness", the worst possible thing you can do is make a disparaging remark about a minority tractor brand. It will release a firestorm of personal criticism and result in highly offended minority brand tractor owners. Of course you can say anything you want about the Big 3 or 4 with no worries about retribution or being call a "tractor racist".


ocaj11 said:
Nuke,

You MUST read the DK55 Axle Fix thread and all the threads about the DK55 smoking that can't be fixed and the threads about the DK55 and KL1595 loader issues.

Also, remember that most of these pro Kioti posts come from Kioti owners with 600 or less hours. Where are the 5,000+ hour Kioti tractor posts??

I had a Kioti. I tried to work with Kioti to resolve my issues with no luck. I sold the Kioti (almost gave it away) and bought a John Deere. In My Opinion, having owned both tractors, the John Deere is a much better tractor and is way more capable.

You have to make the decision that's right for you. I've added my experience to help you decide.
 
   / Kioti - Good, Bad or Indifferent #56  
What I've leaned form this thread: in this age of "tractor political correctness", the worst possible thing you can do is make a disparaging remark about a minority tractor brand. It will release a firestorm of personal criticism and result in highly offended minority brand tractor owners. Of course you can say anything you want about the Big 3 or 4 with no worries about retribution or being call a "tractor racist".

You must have missed the thread(s) from 'Ramon', a disgruntled Kubota L3130 owner that felt the tractor was severly underpowered.

Don
 
   / Kioti - Good, Bad or Indifferent #57  
Whats wrong with a little bit of fun? A picture is worth alot.
 
   / Kioti - Good, Bad or Indifferent #58  
tydp said:
What I've leaned form this thread: in this age of "tractor political correctness", the worst possible thing you can do is make a disparaging remark about a minority tractor brand. It will release a firestorm of personal criticism and result in highly offended minority brand tractor owners. Of course you can say anything you want about the Big 3 or 4 with no worries about retribution or being call a "tractor racist".
Don said:
You must have missed the thread(s) from 'Ramon', a disgruntled Kubota L3130 owner that felt the tractor was severly underpowered.
Donnyj said:
Whats wrong with a little bit of fun? A picture is worth alot.
Here is my take on this part of the thread. First it is no longer productive. Second, while there is some humor being injected by some folks, there is also some mis-direction.

Ramon was simply unreasonable and proved himself to be so in the eyes of Kubota owners because he didn't know what to expect from a tractor and therefore expected things to perform differently than they did. However, unlike some of the issues brought up in this thread, his tractor was not broken, it was just his opinion that it should have been different.

As for the photo. It should be made pretty clear to everyone that there are a couple diffrent types of tractors out in the real world and contract manufacturering is a common practice, but posting that photo does not mean that a Daedong (Kioti) is a Deere anymore than a Yanmar is a Deere. Take a look at Ebay and look for Yanmars and show me the Yanmars that have the designs of a Deere. They don't exist. Yanmar, like Daedong, is a 'contract' manufacturer for Deere for specific models for specific markets. A typical contract manufacturer (Daedong) is typically forbidden from using the technology or designs of their customer (Deere) in their own product lines. Further, it is typcial that the customer (Deere) would have its own designs and quality control in place. Other companies that do this, where a company will have another manufacturer build to their specs would include Case, Massy, etc.

This is dramatically different than the "badge engineered" brands such as some models of Cub Cadet, Branson, Century, Montana or Mahindra with buy some (or all, depending on the brand) of their tractors from other companies and the models are virtually identical except for color.

However, all that said, the fact that Deere chose Daedong to act as a contract manufacturer for some specific Asian market tractors does show there is some level of confidence in Daedong's ability to build a quality product.
 
   / Kioti - Good, Bad or Indifferent #59  
Hey guys - remember me the original poster. Should I buy a Kioti or not?

Nuke,

If you have a specific question about a CK30(from your original post)...you may want to start a new thread. Open ended questions (Should I buy a Kioti?) go off track rather quickly and really have no definitive answers as you can see from the responses.

Choose a good dealer. Regardless of brand.

Don
 
   / Kioti - Good, Bad or Indifferent #60  
nuke said:
Hey guys - remember me the original poster. Should I buy a Kioti or not?

Can't a crack in the loader be welded, sanded and painted or is it a structural design flaw that will break again? If you want to gripe about a loader you should all see the Bulldog 187 on my Shibaura! The tractor is fine (some normal modest moist spots for an older tractor) but the Bulldog was WAY underdesigned. It is bowing in the middle of the bucket and both side supports have crumpled. I will be cutting them out and replacing with 2"x5" square tubing. I have NOT been easy on it, but it has been the Achilles heal of the tractor set up since day one. Don't get me started on the loader hydraulic system - geeesshhh! The loader is making me consider selling the tractor and getting a Kioti.

Get the Kioti tractor, but take a pass on their loader. Why buy a brand new loader that may have a design flaw that Kioti has just acknowledged but has not come up with a good fix for yet. Buy an aftermarket loader, Woods, Bush Hog, etc...Nobody is complaining about those cracking.
 
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