Mousefield
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TractorTidy, Looks like you are talking yourself into trading in your JD 3203 for a new Kioti. :licking: :thumbsup:
Kioti or Kubota
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IslandTractor
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TractorTidy, nice to have you aboard.
I appreciate your perspective as a new Kioti dealer with lots of industry experience. Your point about Kioti's efforts to prune it's dealer network of the backyard low volume dealerships is at least partially on target. That some pruning was necessary is true and I imagine Kioti has accomplished that. However, many of us have seen another side of Korporate Kioti that suggests the leadership is composed of bean counters more than good customer focused businessmen. As many of the TBN Kioti owners will tell you, we have experienced very fine dealerships, not side of the road farm sideshows, essentially being pushed out of their dealerships by rigid Kioti policies. It doesn't help the brand to have excellent dealers terminated or put into untenable business situations by Kioti. I've purchased two Kioti tractors in the past five years and both dealerships were pulled out from under me by Kioti. One was a very decent dealer and the other was frankly legendary here on TBN. My point is that you will find that the Kioti owners here are very very positive about their tractors and the vast majority like their dealers but you will not find a lot of love or admiration for the US Kioti corporation here. I wish you best of luck with your new enterprise.
I appreciate your perspective as a new Kioti dealer with lots of industry experience. Your point about Kioti's efforts to prune it's dealer network of the backyard low volume dealerships is at least partially on target. That some pruning was necessary is true and I imagine Kioti has accomplished that. However, many of us have seen another side of Korporate Kioti that suggests the leadership is composed of bean counters more than good customer focused businessmen. As many of the TBN Kioti owners will tell you, we have experienced very fine dealerships, not side of the road farm sideshows, essentially being pushed out of their dealerships by rigid Kioti policies. It doesn't help the brand to have excellent dealers terminated or put into untenable business situations by Kioti. I've purchased two Kioti tractors in the past five years and both dealerships were pulled out from under me by Kioti. One was a very decent dealer and the other was frankly legendary here on TBN. My point is that you will find that the Kioti owners here are very very positive about their tractors and the vast majority like their dealers but you will not find a lot of love or admiration for the US Kioti corporation here. I wish you best of luck with your new enterprise.
TractorTidy
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Well, time will tell on how I view Kioti corporate, however; I think I've experienced the worst in corporations having been w/ Deere and being pushed out. Why do you think I'm Kioti now?
I think if there have been past problems w/ Kioti corporate, I would hope those things would be improving. If you perform and and are in an area where a dealer is needed, I would hope there would be no problem. We'll see I'm sure.
As far as my 3203, one of these days when I can afford. I have a lot of upgrading to do since all my equipment is Deere.
I think if there have been past problems w/ Kioti corporate, I would hope those things would be improving. If you perform and and are in an area where a dealer is needed, I would hope there would be no problem. We'll see I'm sure.
As far as my 3203, one of these days when I can afford. I have a lot of upgrading to do since all my equipment is Deere.
Hoosier Hay Man
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Welcome aboard! How far from Indy are you?
gerard
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Not sure I understand this post. I thought breakout was a function of the curl cylinders when "breaking out" while digging, while lifting capacity was the weight the loader can lift. Two totally different things and measured on two different sets of hydraulics. I lift large hay bales (750-800 lbs) so to ME lifting capacity is important as I stack them two high and need the capacity to get them up here. Am I looking at "breakout force" incorrectly?