Kioti or Kubota

[IslandTractor]

Bought Bobcat CT 440 with FEL,4 wheel drive,Hydrostat NEW $15,716.21

That is an amazing price even if it is a demo or leftover. I cannot imagine anyone making money on such a sale.

No way Kioti or Kubota could come close for a 40hp HST.

 

[MDM]

Also found out Kioti made Kubota parts for years and then came out with on tractors.Some kioti models and
Kubota models are same tractor with different grill & hood.

That's funny. Let me guess, a Kioti or Bobcat dealer told you that?

 

[Dargo]

As far as I can tell these are urban legends. I've never seen proof that Kioti made parts for Kubota. As far as I can tell no Kioti is a clone of a Kubota either.

Yes, saying such things were often the sales tactics of the little roadside Kioti dealers who worked out of a yard barn. To their credit, Kioti has eliminated most of those dealers. True, Kioti clearly copied Kubota and successfully has been following their path to success. The Koreans have been successful in doing the same with their export vehicles as well. At first, they were complete junk and very similar in quality to a Yugo. However, they kept at it and got better. Now their vehicles rate right with Honda and Subaru on quality and relibility; above Toyota currently. I'd have to say, based on what I've read, the same holds true with their tractors.

Still, a guy should never say that Kioti (Daedong) ever made Kubota tractors. That simply is not true and reflects rather poorly on their ability and desire to do any research on a tractor before purchasing one.

 

[lilranch2001]

When I started my search for a new tractor, I thought Kubota after all, everyone wants a Kubota..... I went and looked at them at 3 different dealers, I read posts on this forum, and then I went and test rode a few.
I started reading about other brands so I went and looked at JD, MF, NH, and Kioti. JD's looked "smallish" and expensive, the MF dealer was an old "friend" but he made a statement that infuriated me, NH and Kioti dealers were just to far away for my comfort level.
I saw an tv ad for Bobcat, and my dealer is 2 miles from my work, the Bobcat was so much more sturdy that the Kubota, from specs, fenders, controls and had a much better deal to boot.

To me the Bobcat was a no brainer, and since in the 3 months I have had it, I have put 100 hours on it, she has done more than she was asked, it is strong, and getting stronger with every hour I put oun it. Some of my neighbors just drool when they see what I can do with it.

All I can say is look at all of the ones you may want to buy, and go with an open mind, some tractors are much more favored in the marketplace, but it does not mean they are a better tractor or a better value.

So say I

 

[Mousefield]

Bought Bobcat CT 440 with FEL,4 wheel drive,Hydrostat NEW $15,716.21

Well you sure got a good deal then. Up this way all the major brands in a 40 HP range with FEL and HST would be around double that price. Hard to believe that the dealer paid less than $15,716.21 for it and then sold it to you for a profit. :shocked: Just looked up the quote I got from a Bobcat dealer in May 2008 for a CT235 with loader, 7B backhoe: $28,200.00 plus taxes. Even if you took off $8,200.00 for the backhoe it still leaves $20,000.00 for the tractor. You got a larger one for many thousands less. :confused2:

 

[Charlesaf3]

I have 2 kubotas - been really pleased with them, and I'd probably buy a kubota again.

That said, I've been favorably impressed with Kioti - they'd probably be my second choice after Kubota, and price could swing it.

I like the Hyundai comparison - started off kind of junky, but they are playing catchup hard, and I'd look at them seriously now.

I don't think you'll go wrong with either. I do think Kubota will have better resale in the near term. 15 years... probably won't make a difference

 

[dlbtenn]

YES Got it when they had the rebate sale going. The CT 440 & FEL is selling for $21,900 now. Have 212 hours on it, so far so good only problem was lift arm broke,call them said recall on certain serial # gave me two new lift arms

 

[dlbtenn]

That's funny. Let me guess, a Kioti or Bobcat dealer told you that?

YES Kioti dealer told me this. Maybe Sales pitch HaHa on me

 

[IslandTractor]

YES Kioti dealer told me this. Maybe Sales pitch HaHa on me

Actually, Kioti did make at least one part for Kubota: paint.:laughing:

 

[gkh7890]

My dealer earned the opportunity to go to the Daedong plants (assembly, castings, etc.) in Korea last year (Sept 2009). Like we've heard from Wallace and some other dealers, he was really impressed with the operations.

We started talking about 100% brand construction - Kioti/Daedong; Kubota, etc. making all their own stuff VS. JD has parts shipped to US and assembles here. He shared with me he saw front axle castings for M5040/6040/7040 series Kubotas at Daedong's casting plant. He used to be a Kubota dealer until around 8-9 yrs ago (not 100% sure on that time line??) so he should know what he's talking about....at this point, I don't see any reason to not take him for his word. Just thought I'd throw it out there.....must be the global economy/world market thing, huh?