Kubota B7800 vs NH TC 30

[Bob_Skurka]

According to the specs, which for all brands I find to be somewhat suspect because all brands tend to omit some tid bits of data, the 12LA loader on a TC24DA will lift to 7'1" (I PRESUME that to be at the pivot pin - certainly it is lower when dumped!) The lift capacity at the bucket pivot point is 1090#, the breakout force at that point is 1720#. A note of caution, I beleive lift capacity is measured near the ground, not at full height. Obviously breakout force on all brands is going to be measured at the ground.

For the 14LA loader on a TC29DA, the lift height is 8'2" (but what is the clearance when dumping?), lift capacity reads as 1256# and breakout force as 2712#. In both cases I took the data from the downloadable Farmall spec sheet because they give more information on their spec sheet than I had from the identical NH loaders.

I have no idea what the TC30 with a 7308 loader is rated.

For the B7800/B2910, the lift height is 6'8" to the pivot pin. Breakout force is 1684#. Lift capacity at full height is 1060# at the bucket pivot pin, or 760# at full height at the bucket center. Clearance with a bucket dumped forward is 65.5" (5'6.5").

So, the smaller NH TC24DA has a loader that compares reasonably well to the larger Kubota B7800 based on the specs shown above (which I took off the various CNH and Kubota websites). I don't know about the loader for the TC30. The advantage goes to the TC29 for brute strength, but that tractor may be out of budget. To be honest, I never looked at the specs before today. It appears that the smaller NH 12LA and the larger Kubota LA402 are about equavalent in actual use based on the numbers, but AGAIN, I CAUTION, the numbers could be misleading if they are measured at different points. I suspect the LA402 has SLIGHTLY greater capacity than the 12LA, despite what the numbers indicate because I don't know if the 12LA is measured at full height. In any case, the breakout force of the NH loader is greater than the Kubota loader, but only marginally.

I don't know if any of them will dump into your F350. I would suggest you drive the F350 to the tractor dealer and try it out with all your possible choices.

 

[bandit67]

Bill,

I can dump a load into the back of my F250 with my subcompact, but I have to put the bucket back up to back away - can't do it with the bucket dumped. I have the LA110 FEL (same as the 10LA on NH). Your F350 is probably 2" higher than mine because of the 4" rear suspension blocks (F250 has 2" blocks), but you still should be ok as my tractor and loader is smaller than the one you are looking at. If you have a lift, then you'll have to give it a try at the dealership.

By the way, although I was looking at sub compacts, I compared the Case/New Hollands with the Kubotas side by side, and chose the Case (twin to NH), with the curved loader arms being a very big reason. If you have access to a Case dealer, you may want to try them, as Case and New Holland are the same company with the only differences being paint, headlights/grille, and the Supersteer available only on the NH.

You can check the pics in my link below to my Case DX24E - it is the same as the TZ24DA - both 24hp subcompacts. That may help you to see some of the differences between the 2 brands, as I'm sure you can see the TZ24DA at your NH dealer. The larger compact Case machines are very nice. The Case machines tend to run a little bit less expensive than the NH's.

 

[KubotaSteve]

I have the 7800 and the height of the bucket when in the full dump position is about 65" which could change by an inch or so depending on the type of tires. The height with the bucket fully raised (bucket rolled back) is about 84".
I can dump material in my dad's Off Road Chevy Z-71 with the very large 16 inch tires with room to spare.
I've been very happy with the 7800 and at times quite impressed with it's capabilities.

 

[DAP]

I'll add one further detail ... one that bothered me somewhat.

The TC30 has the same engine as the TC33 but is mounted differently (it is tuned down to 30 GHP btw). In fact, the motor mounts on the TC30 are quite poor.

As such, the TC30 vibrates what I would term 'a lot' at idle range RPMs. It's not the engine, it's the mounting system. I've driven 3 of these TC30 HSTs at different dealers and they all shook quite a bit at idle rpms.

The B7800 is much smoother without the wheel rattling vibrations at idle.

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