Tractor Sizing Kubota L3901, L4701, L4060, MX5400, stability, miscellaneous

   / Kubota L3901, L4701, L4060, MX5400, stability, miscellaneous
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#51  
Thanks to all who contributed. I pulled the trigger today on my tractor purchase, details are in my profile. This year's focus is on maintaining my driveway and field, gardening/planting trees, clearing brush and whole trees that have fallen, and generally assimilating a tractor into my life (such as by building pallet racks in my garage). Future wishes for another year will be about chipping/shredding/winching all those fallen trees in the forest.
Everything on the front is quick attach. I haven't done any rear hydraulics or quick hitch for now. The QH really isn't needed for now, most of the time I'll probably just have the blade on there. Adding three scv's and hydraulics to my blade setup would have added another $3k to the price, so will try hard to make due without it for now, I can add it later if it really drives me nuts.

In the end I went with the MX5400 over the L3901/4701 partly because I didn't want to undershoot on the HP and _weight_ and general robustness of the tractor, and also because I wanted a wider wheelbase for stability. The MX5400 is 20% wider than the L3901, less so but still significantly wider than the L4701 too. I'm sure both the 3901 and 4701 would have been fine, but in test drives I found them cramped for my physical frame, and the L4701 seems like an odd beast for potential resale value since dealers don't even want to carry it. I felt the MX5400 was a better all-round workhorse and value-preserving prospect worthy of the additional money, and I have to say I liked driving it a lot better, it fits me better (the L3901 even caused me to get cramps in painful places). Though I have no doubt I'm going to have to drive gingerly and with due consideration when I cross the lawn for various tasks, that much weight is going to push what you can get away with with R4's on turf.

On the tire width, the R4's on the 5400 have lots more (dealer supported) placement options than on the L3901. I've opted for "position 6", which puts the outside width at 72.4". Position 7 at 73.7" dosn't add much, and position 8 at 77.39 inches would force me to reconsider bucket and other attachment widths (since the wheels would stick out 5+ inches beyond the 72" bucket, for example). So I'm going with position 6. Since they're loaded tires, here's hoping my gamble works, it isn't like I'll pay to change it later. I'm sure there are other spacer or third party solutions too, but my reasoning here hopefully still applies. I'm banking on the base tractor properties more than things that put my wheels wide compared to my attachments.
 
   / Kubota L3901, L4701, L4060, MX5400, stability, miscellaneous #52  
I think I read the whole thread up t this point and I hadn't seen alternatives mentioned such as a Power Trac PT-1845, or a Bobcat V519
 
   / Kubota L3901, L4701, L4060, MX5400, stability, miscellaneous
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#53  
I think I read the whole thread up t this point and I hadn't seen alternatives mentioned such as a Power Trac PT-1845, or a Bobcat V519

Intersting. Of course the ship just sailed (or check sailed, or something like that). And the bobcat looks very expensive by comparison. Curious about the pros and cons to this type of tool and how it compares. THe power trac site is very transparent about prices which is nice.
 
   / Kubota L3901, L4701, L4060, MX5400, stability, miscellaneous #54  
Congrats on your new machine! It should serve you very well. Post some pics and have some fun !!
 
   / Kubota L3901, L4701, L4060, MX5400, stability, miscellaneous #55  
Wise choice;most first time buyers go too small and have to upgrade down the road.You should be set for life with that rig.
 
   / Kubota L3901, L4701, L4060, MX5400, stability, miscellaneous #56  
You are going to love your new MX. I will caution you though... load the rear tires, AND add wheel weights. The MX's are too light in the rear for the fel. I put 600 lbs of weights on mine, besides the loaded tires, and what a difference. Enjoy!
 
   / Kubota L3901, L4701, L4060, MX5400, stability, miscellaneous #57  
A counterweight on the 3pt can offset picking up heavy objects with the loader. Or an implement on the back, but counterweights can often be heavier and less bulky.
 
   / Kubota L3901, L4701, L4060, MX5400, stability, miscellaneous #58  
I'm buying a tractor. First, let me say that my primary uses for my tractor are probably covered. The L3901 should be entirely adequate to the primary tasks. That said, I have a few secondary wish list items and concerns:

Stability:

Big concern for me, perhaps because I'm just a big chicken. My property is very hilly. I'm unsure of the slope, but let's just say that all past people who've brush hogged my field always go up/down hill, never sideways. My woods are also hilly. See next item.

Woods:

I'd like to go into the woods. I have some trails I used to maintain by hand, some logs I'd like to skid out of the woods. Casual stuff. Even if I was super serious about woods and logging, we'd be talking 10 cords/year _max_. My trails are not designed for tractors. They're wide enough to get in, but turning around may be problematic unless I modify the trails, and there's the hills, i.e. the trails are often cut into the side of a hill, so ... forward and back, no sideways.

Snow clearing. Probably irrelevant, just FYI.

I don't think the the snow blowing stuff really has much impact on the tractor size at this point, i.e. the L3901 will probably do the trick. Sure, bigger is better for weight and such. And the Grand L series has the mid-pto option for a front mounted blower. I might be okay with a pull-type rear blower if I went that way. I have a 1/4 mile driveway. Much through the woods (challenging to push the snow back there). Some large turnouts (50 feet in diameter). Gravel. In my dreams I'd snowblow it, maybe I'll settle for plowing. Under no circumstances will I snowblow in reverse. No cab, because of trees and aforementioned woods plans.


Okay, let's talk width tradeoffs:

I've mostly spoken with a dealer about an L3901. Here are the specified (default) widths of the Kubotas I mention in the title:

So the L4060 'Grand' model is more than 11 inches wider than the L3901! That beckons to me, but perhaps it is irrational, and I don't have the a list of cost upgrades involved yet (any data anyone?). And there's the conflict, wider tractor means harder to navigate woods. Heavier tractor means more damage to lawn (when crossing), and potentially tree roots.

The dealer tells me the L3901 only accommodates 1.5" spacers. So at best I'm going to get 58.1" width. I don't know what's available for the others yet.

Anyway, just looking for advice based on your personal experience with these models and/or issues. I have a _basic_ grasp of the differences in these models, i.e. all the goodies that come with the grand L series compared to standard L. I don't have any clue about real cost differences yet. I'd guess wider models mean I need wider implements, e.g. snowblower, means more cost for attachments too.

So, long and short, I'm trying not to go overboard. I'm hoping I can do some of my secondary plans in the woods and for snow clearing. I'd really like not to end up with a broken neck trying to clear and retrieve wood from my favorite trails. This being my first (and preferably only) tractor, I'm unsure how much to worry. Thanks in advance.

I would be more concerned with bottom clearance. You know your property so measure from the ground to the first interference point on the tractor that could be damaged. I have the L3301 and I've already damaged both hydraulic filters. Had I known this I would have moved up to the MX series.
 

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