Kubota L3901 vs Kioti CK4010

[chim]

I've been toying with replacing the L3200 with a tractor that has factory air. A couple days ago I ran a used Kioti DK45SE around a dealer's lot to get a feel for it.

The HST worked well, but I noticed that the tractor coasted more when letting off the pedal. Not a bad thing. Sometimes the Kubota stops more abruptly than I'd like.

Controls were nice in general. The joystick seemed a bit stiff going in and out of the float position, and it was really difficult to maintain a level position while raising and lowering the bucket. I noticed the same operation on a Bobcat (OK, a white Kioti) and a New Holland. This is a simple task on the Kubota, and my guess is that it has to do with the Kubota's joystick being right on the valves while the Kioti's is cable connected?

The Kioti is a nice tractor and was pretty nimble for the larger size. The cab is fairly quiet and it doesn't have the hydro whine that my Kubota does. I'm a "bigger is better" fan, but the Kioti may be going a little far. The L3200 size and weight has been ideal. It fits in my shed and the trees have been trimmed to match its size.

 

[k0ua]

My one (1) Kioti reservation has to do with difficult starting in cold weather.

There are disproportional threads titled "Kioti Will Not Start" "CK Will Not Start" , "DK Will Not Start" and variations on the theme, in the T-B-N archive.

If you look at the following LINK the Won't Start threads go on page after page after page.
LINK: Kioti will not start site:tractorbynet.com - Google Search

"Won't Start" threads ramp up every December.

I shopped Kioti but bought Kubota. When it is time for my next new tractor I will shop Kioti again.



CHRYON: Your location should be part of your T-B-N PROFILE, so it shows with every post your make.

I have owned 2 Kubota's and 1 Kioti which is my present tractor.

I will GUARANTEE you that the Kioti is by far and away the easiest starting tractor I have ever owned. I have owned 5.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Just what I thought
Not only can't give specifics, can't tell which models you compared

So what ??? I'm not bashing Kioti, so why are you trying to make it that way ???

 

[DK35vince]

I have owned 2 Kubota's and 1 Kioti which is my present tractor.

I will GUARANTEE you that the Kioti is by far and away the easiest starting tractor I have ever owned. I have owned 5.

17 years my DK 35 has never failed to start right up in the winter

 

[DK35vince]

So what ??? I'm not bashing Kioti, so why are you trying to make it that way ???

You make blanket statements that certain brands are "cheaper for a reason"(post #11), and "inferior" (post #17) Etc. but can't tell us what features/parts or components it is that it is that's inferior. Or even what model you looked at/compared ??
Spare me !!!

 

[prof fate]

what makes the loader bucket a kioti lousy?

I'd like teeth - my thoght is just to get a second bucket with teeth..only a couple of hundred more from what i've seen on CL and gives me options.

I've used my bucket hard so far- no issues.

I view kioti as a good tractor. The biggest fault IMO is a lousy loader bucket. Mahindra has plenty of substandard features. Lousy castings, lousy brakes, lousy shifting in the geared models. Lousy loader valve. Still has a lousy loader bucket. Lousy customer service.

 

[prof fate]

I've been toying with replacing the L3200 with a tractor that has factory air. A couple days ago I ran a used Kioti DK45SE around a dealer's lot to get a feel for it.

The HST worked well, but I noticed that the tractor coasted more when letting off the pedal. Not a bad thing. Sometimes the Kubota stops more abruptly than I'd like.

Controls were nice in general. The joystick seemed a bit stiff going in and out of the float position, and it was really difficult to maintain a level position while raising and lowering the bucket. I noticed the same operation on a Bobcat (OK, a white Kioti) and a New Holland. This is a simple task on the Kubota, and my guess is that it has to do with the Kubota's joystick being right on the valves while the Kioti's is cable connected?

The Kioti is a nice tractor and was pretty nimble for the larger size. The cab is fairly quiet and it doesn't have the hydro whine that my Kubota does. I'm a "bigger is better" fan, but the Kioti may be going a little far. The L3200 size and weight has been ideal. It fits in my shed and the trees have been trimmed to match its size.

when cold, or colder temps, until warmed up, my kioti will coast as well. once warmed up, no issues.

 

[4570Man]

what makes the loader bucket a kioti lousy?

I'd like teeth - my thoght is just to get a second bucket with teeth..only a couple of hundred more from what i've seen on CL and gives me options.

I've used my bucket hard so far- no issues.

Too small for the machine it’s on, no reinforcement on the bucket sides, no reinforcement at the top edge which makes it hard to weld hooks on

 

[Steppenwolfe]

You make blanket statements that certain brands are "cheaper for a reason"(post #11), and "inferior" (post #17) Etc. but can't tell us what features/parts or components it is that it is that's inferior. Or even what model you looked at/compared ??
Spare me !!!

OK... Got it. Trolling for a fight. Back off moron.

 

[Jchonline]

I looked at the NX and RX series, 60 ish HP range. Comparing to the Kubota Grand L and the JD 40 series, along with equivalents in TYM, LS, MF.

For me, the Kubota was the smoothest, both HST and hydraulic response of FEL. For me that is important, but maybe it doesnt matter to others. That said, the Kioti was my 2nd choice. The reason I didn't go Koiti was 2 fold. First, the price was the same as Kubota. Second, my Kioti dealer also sells cars, TYM, and LS. I just felt like they would not be specialized enough to really help me if I needed complex service. Also the Kubota dealer has 4 area locations...so parts are potentially easier and they are less likely to go belly up. I really dont have any negatives about the Kioti. If I found a reputable dealer and a great price I would strongly consider.