Kubota L48 or Deere 110? Your thoughts..

[tlbuser]

Can a JD 110 unload a full 1.5 ton pallet?

1.5 tons, 3000 lbs ??? 500 lbs over its max rated lift capacity???

 

[curtisfarmer]

My point exactly. Why pay more for a machine that does less? If it cannot unload full pallets, all the more manual work required at the job site.

 

[Builder]

My point exactly. Why pay more for a machine that does less? If it cannot unload full pallets, all the more manual work required at the job site.

T be fair, the 110 has feature the L-48 does not have. It has more loader joystick features and a creep feature from the backhoe operating position.

I think the 110 might be heavier, too that tell me it's probably stronger built or has a heavier undercarriage.

 

[tlbuser]

My point exactly. Why pay more for a machine that does less? If it cannot unload full pallets, all the more manual work required at the job site.

Umm, actually I was doubting the L48 can pick and place 1.5 ton pallets

 

[xxxsandman]

Umm, actually I was doubting the L48 can pick and place 1.5 ton pallets

You will be hard pressed to find a less then 10k pound machine that can handle 3,000lbs safely on the pallet forks. Very few FEL's can safely pick up a 1.5 ton (3,000lb) pallet. Pallets are tough, as the weight is farther away from the loader then bucket work. The biggest track or skid steer loaders might handle that task or a full size TLB with pallet forks. I'm not saying an L48 couldn't get a 1.5 ton pallet off the ground, it just would be pushing it's limits for sure. 1 ton (2,000 pounds) on pallet forks would be OK for an L48.

 

[Builder]

Umm, actually I was doubting the L48 can pick and place 1.5 ton pallets

It probably can't. listen to the Kubota guys long enough and they'll have you believing they can pick up 4 tons with pallet forks and out dig a trackhoe.

 

[curtisfarmer]

My L48, ballasted to 9980 lbs. surely picks them off a trailer and places them on the ground. I am definetly maxed out and cannot lift them past 1/4 to 1/2 off the ground......and that is teasing it with the curl as well. But, it does do it. In fact, I am unloading 3 pallets of cobbles today. What a pain it would be to have to unmesh the pallets and take the top layers off so it can handle it. For those who doubt, you should try it. I also picked up 3 1920's Fordson tractors and a 1987 subaru. A JD 110 would not come close and neither would a L39. Looking at one yesterday reinforced my belief in how small the L39 is. The tires are tiny. And the JD 110 compared to an L48. Did complete service on my L48 this weekend.......major $$$$ and a lot of liquid in that beast. Waiting to see new L48 and what it can do. I cannot see it picking up much more and still stay below 10K lbs.

 

[Builder]

Yeah, the L-39 is weak compared to my Case.

Glad I dumped the Kubota for a serious piece of equipment. I can't believe I ever sold my 555 Ford and bought the Kubotas. It's amazing how much nicer a full size backhoe is compared to a compact TLB. Not really that much less manueverable, either. The AC cab is a life saver and the power/ability isn't even close.

My advice is if you're considering spending 35-40K on a toy TLB, your money would be much more wisely spent on a clean used full size 4x4 backhoe unless you need to move your machine a lot/don't have a CDL. 35-40K buys a LOT of low-houred, used backhoe.

I can get my Case moved 10-20 miles for under $100. Otherwise, if it's a short trip, I just hit the 4-ways, turn on the tunes & AC and cruise the Case over to the jobsite at 27 MPH!

I can't even justify buying a trailer for my dumptruck!

 

[curtisfarmer]

I agree a full size backhoe is great, but tractors such as an L48 is the most usable and versatile machine for landscape contractors like my self. Your Case won't mow fields, pull a rake, plow snow in residential driveways, grade gravel, have quick attach forks, spin a post hole digger, fit in my barn, fit in tight areas, and a whole bunch of other things that cannot live without. Besides the fact that you cannot do smaller jobs that an L48 can do with all the power it needs. A fullsized backhoe does dig better, but that is all it does. Also, any Case 580 under $30 40K is going to have thousands of hours on it and who wants maintenece you know will eventually come due. I do not see how you can compare the two as they are completely different machine classes for distinctly different purposes. I have never seen someone install a lawn with a Case 580....and I have 2 friends with 680s (real big) who now agree are completely useless unless you travel with something smaller like a bobcat or kubota for clean up. Comparing the L48 or JD110 to a Case 580 is an apples to oranges comparison. No 3PT hitch for me is a no go from the get go. I would love a 580, but could not make it pay for itself for what I do for work. The JD 210 would be a better comparison, but again, above 10K lbs.

 

[Builder]

I agree a full size backhoe is great, but tractors such as an L48 is the most usable and versatile machine for landscape contractors like my self. Your Case won't mow fields, pull a rake, plow snow in residential driveways, grade gravel, have quick attach forks, spin a post hole digger, fit in my barn, fit in tight areas, and a whole bunch of other things that cannot live without.

Whoaaaaa!!! It's obvious you really need to brush-up on your knowledge of TLBs

My Case backhoe WILL plow snow better than an L-48 ever dreamed of with a power angle plow ranging from 7' to 12' !!! FFC

Or how about a 8 foot snowblower that throws snow 45'??

http://www.ffcattachments.com/_incl...=product&ext=pdf&name=F-Snow Blade 0608-1.pdf

maybe a snow pusher 7'-14'?

FFC

Rake & grade gravel?? no problem:

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Post hole digger you ask? More than any L-48 ever dreamed of!

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Quick attach Forks you say? I have quick attach forks (I have an FFC quick attach on the front of my CASE) here they are mounted on it: They actually come off quicker than your L-48. Only one lever to pull instead of two!



How about a hammer? Sure!

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Power angle broom? You betcha!
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Power rake? Certainly!

FFC

In fact, I can run attacments you can't run with an L-48, like a 14' snow pusher box, a vibratory tamper, pulverizer, bale squeezer, even a timber saw or car crusher jaws!!

OK, so it won't fit in YOUR little garage, but it fits in mine big one Ability of a machine in terms of production depends largely on HP, hydraulic pump output and size. Want more machine, gotta have more power & size

" Besides the fact that you cannot do smaller jobs that an L48 can do with all the power it needs. A fullsized backhoe does dig better, but that is all it does. "

Duhhhh, isn't that what a TLB's primary purpose is? If my Case can take bigger attachments, bigger forks, bigger plows, etc. then can't it do a lot of jobs better than an L-48?

Won't a bigger Case machine with a bigger plow and more power push more snow than a little L-48 with a smaller plow and less power?

"Also, any Case 580 under $30 40K is going to have thousands of hours on it and who wants maintenece you know will eventually come due. I do not see how you can compare the two as they are completely different machine classes for distinctly different purposes. I have never seen someone install a lawn with a Case 580"

And you'll never see anyone dig a house foundation or lift a 3 ton boulder with an L-48!

"....and I have 2 friends with 680s (real big) who now agree are completely useless unless you travel with something smaller like a bobcat or kubota for clean up. Comparing the L48 or JD110 to a Case 580 is an apples to oranges comparison. No 3PT hitch for me is a no go from the get go. I would love a 580, but could not make it pay for itself for what I do for work. The JD 210 would be a better comparison, but again, above 10K lbs."

I've owned & operated both for many years. There's no comparison. A full size is far superior in terms of output, capability and earning money. The little machines are great for little jobs, but I've found my 580 barely takes up much more space than an L-39.