Kubota M6060 vs. L6060 vs. NH T 4.75 vs. JD 5075E

[94BULLITT]

Except for the heavier Massey MF1758 and Kioti NX6010 or the more powerful Deere 4066R, that is.

Just saying'

Do any of them have dual speed hydro and stall guard? All those tractors with out a loader are within 150lbs off each other.

 

[motownbrowne]

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my hydro. LOVE it. That said, for tilling and planting 20-30 acres at a time, it's not the right tool for the job in my opinion. The efficiency loss of the hst would be too much I think.

That said, one could buy a big hydro CUT for loader work and daily chores, and an older used gear tractor for the real Ag stuff. Something like an international 1066 or JD 4020, or maybe one size down. Just an idea.

 

[94BULLITT]

I have had an A/C problem with my JD 4720 and my dealer provided a replacement tractor in the form of a used Grand L5740. I couldn't be more impressed with the Kubota! It is head and shoulders above my JD4720 in strength and power, although not nearly as comfortable. I have considered the new L6060 and while I haven't completely ruled it out, I'm concerned that I will outgrow the CUT tractors in the next year or two. I'm getting opportunities to bid on work that involves significant acreage...20, 30 acres or more, and I will need to get larger, heavier tillage and planting equipment, probably in excess of what a CUT machine 3 pt can handle. Of my current implements, most have 6'-7' working widths and the heaviest is a Kasco Eco Drill with three boxes that weighs in around 1800 lbs empty. On sidehills I have to be careful with the drill and also my Land Pride seeder. I think the bigger tractors will handle all of the equipment better in these circumstances. I was leaning toward the 5075E because it is just slightly smaller, lower profile than the M7060...and it's less expensive. Some of what I've read has me a little spooked about the John Deere 50xxE series.

You probably would be better off with a Utility tractor if you are going to be taking on bigger jobs.

 

[fleminj2pa]

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my hydro. LOVE it. That said, for tilling and planting 20-30 acres at a time, it's not the right tool for the job in my opinion. The efficiency loss of the hst would be too much I think.

That said, one could buy a big hydro CUT for loader work and daily chores, and an older used gear tractor for the real Ag stuff. Something like an international 1066 or JD 4020, or maybe one size down. Just an idea.

You're right, I need three tractors...but, I can only afford two at the moment because I also need more attachments. I also have a John Deere 2520 sub-CUT and it's amazing what that little tractor will do, including get into places that even a CUT won't get to. I have a broom, snowblower, 62" belly mower w/collection system, and loader for it. It will run my 6' brush hog and I just started using it to run my 110 gal. sprayer because it can fit between the rows without running down a row, but I can only put about 90 gal of water in it which is enough to do 4.5 acres. I'd love to keep the 4720 for mowing and spraying larger areas but it's just not an option. So the next tractor has to do what the 4720 does and do the heavy work better. I'm sure I'll miss the hydro in a lot of applications but life is full of compromises.

By the way, while I'm thinking about it, can anyone explain the difference between a synch shuttle and power reverser?

 

[motownbrowne]

A synchronized shuttle would still require you to clutch to change directions. A hydraulic or power shuttle just requires a flip of a lever.

I think you've probably already thought of this, but you could afford three tractors if you keep the two you have and add a used ag machine. There's some real nice old IH rigs for under 12k around here. But they won't be the same as a new cabbed Kubota.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Do any of them have dual speed hydro and stall guard? All those tractors with out a loader are within 150lbs off each other.

Dual speed? No, each range (L-M-H) covers the same working speeds of Kubota's 2-speed range. When I looked at the L6060, the two-speed transmission felt like everybody else's single range with a shift point in the middle. The Kioti I purchased for example has a slightly faster ground speed in high range, so what is Kubota's two speed doing? FWIW, everybody has stall guard these days and every one of them is easier to make changes to things than Kubota's new, single button.

 

[PoorPlowboy]

Yes kubota offers adding a creeper range I believe it is a dealer install kit option like the 1000 rpm pto on the m8540/60 and up

The creeper gear pack can be added by the dealer to the 6040/7040 and give you 4 mor lower gears. I use it on my 7040 for tillage. Isn't that 12x12?

 

[94BULLITT]

Dual speed? No, each range (L-M-H) covers the same working speeds of Kubota's 2-speed range. When I looked at the L6060, the two-speed transmission felt like everybody else's single range with a shift point in the middle. The Kioti I purchased for example has a slightly faster ground speed in high range, so what is Kubota's two speed doing? FWIW, everybody has stall guard these days and every one of them is easier to make changes to things than Kubota's new, single button.

The dual speed allows you to do more work in any range. When the DS is in low it gives you more pulling power than a tractor that does not have a dual speed hydro because it is "geared" lower. With a tractor that does does not have a dual speed you would have to down shift to a lower range. With the DS in high you have a faster ground speed. The DS is about like a splitter on a truck transmission. I'm not sure how they rate the topspeed on tractors, I have GPSed mine and they run faster than what they say they should, even the Bobcat did.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

The dual speed allows you to do more work in any range. When the DS is in low it gives you more pulling power than a tractor that does not have a dual speed hydro because it is "geared" lower. With a tractor that does does not have a dual speed you would have to down shift to a lower range. With the DS in high you have a faster ground speed. The DS is about like a splitter on a truck transmission. I'm not sure how they rate the topspeed on tractors, I have GPSed mine and they run faster than what they say they should, even the Bobcat did.

Understood. But to me duel speed in high, felt like everybody else's high with a shift point in the middle. I did not try it in medium or low and neither did i load test.

 

[94BULLITT]

Understood. But to me duel speed in high, felt like everybody else's high with a shift point in the middle. I did not try it in medium or low and neither did i load test.

You really need to work the tractor to appreciate it, you can't appreciate it driving around the dealers parking lot