Comparison Kubota M7040 SUD vs Agroplus 87

[davygp38]

Resale counts. The above is a whole lot of hot air. I bought the right tractor. It has done its job well. I am being promoted and moved to a new location. I'm getting out of horses. Don't need a tractor anymore. Life changes for all kinds of reasons and the need for a tractor might change when it does. Being able to get some ROI means a lot. People get sick/old and can't farm. People loose their jobs (very true today) and have to sell.


Bottom line is I would much rather have a Kubota sitting in my yard for sale than a Agroplus.

I agree with much of what you are saying. However I would also point out, that we have to make compromises in life, and more so in business. Circumstances sometimes dictate that you cannot afford to buy the perfect machine, or hire the best contractor. This man had to make a choice, the machine with the better fit for his circumstances, or the machine that was better rated, and had much more dealer support. It is all about circumstance, and price. In this case it boiled down to more bang for your buck.

 

[TripleR]

Agreed, it is hard to make blanket statements on resale value, utility and such without knowing just about every detail of someone's situation.

I know a guy who is in hospice care right now and the resale value of his tractor was of no consequence I suppose as he never intended to get rid of it. No one in his family cares about the farm, tractors etc and it will all be sold.

I have two sons and grand sons who will use all the equipment we own long after I am gone, so resale is not that big of a deal, but it is nice to know they can upgrade without a big financial hit like we recently took on another tractor.

We can only give general advice/opinion and leave it up to the poster to sift through it. The other option is to just keep quiet just in case our advice doesn't quite fit that person because of some unique or unknown/unrealized factor.

To give point on advice a poster will have to provide pictures, soil types, finances, perhaps a marital assessment, financial statements, earning reports, retirement plans, family demographics etc and then we can bore him or her with a lengthy treatise in which no one will take the time to read.

I don't know about everyone else, but if something gets too long or is too much trouble, I just might move on.

 

[slowzuki]

I'm the opposite. I tried to sell my Kubota and I couldn't without taking a bath on the resale. The Deutz's in good shape hold value a long time up here and sell fast. Even if you have to advertise in an area closer to a good dealer.

Resale counts. The above is a whole lot of hot air. I bought the right tractor. It has done its job well. I am being promoted and moved to a new location. I'm getting out of horses. Don't need a tractor anymore. Life changes for all kinds of reasons and the need for a tractor might change when it does. Being able to get some ROI means a lot. People get sick/old and can't farm. People loose their jobs (very true today) and have to sell.


Bottom line is I would much rather have a Kubota sitting in my yard for sale than a Agroplus.

 

[TripleR]

I'm the opposite. I tried to sell my Kubota and I couldn't without taking a bath on the resale. The Deutz's in good shape hold value a long time up here and sell fast. Even if you have to advertise in an area closer to a good dealer.

Location sure makes a difference doesn't it? Down here you could probably sit a Chinese tractor and Duetz side by side and most wouldn't know which way to jump.

 

[slowzuki]

Thats what happens when you abandon a market for what 15 years? Deutz allis sold enough tractors here to keep the name going into the 90's at least.

 

[TripleR]

The closest Deutz dealership to me is 131 miles.

 

[ahlkey]

As far as resale value I do agree it was an important consideration for me but the Deutz models here have a pretty good reputation as well. I also hope this tractor is one my sons will use when I am long gone. I think I was fortunate to get the Argoplus 87 at such a great price which in essence gave me a much bigger and more capacity tractor. It is not that easy to find a 2008 NEW model when the 2011 models are now available. The tractor actually will be shipped into the area from another state.

Overall, I am anxious to pick up the Argroplus 87 which is still a week away but as soon as I do I will definitely post pictures.

 

[Wiltas]

I guys just stumbled on this thread while looking for something else. I must say it's very interesting to read comments from the other side of the world. Just to add my 5 cents worth, i say congratulations for going with the Deutz. These are a fantastic machine/brand and must be remembered they are german engineered rather than Japanese made! We presently have a Agroplus 80 that replaced a Kabota 6970 and honestly there is no comparison. Lifting, horsepower and road speed are so different its unreal. Deutz hp is Din rated too where Kabota is ps. The deutz engine has so much of a wider power band compared to the Kab' although the nerw motors are Perkins so they should be better. Air con on our model is electric and is the biggest problem. Hope it goes well for you
cheers

 

[ahlkey]

This past few weeks I have been using the AgroPlus 87 and so far have been very impressed. I added a 3pt forklift to the rear and the tractor had no problem lifting heavy stacks of lumber. The rear hydraulics is rated at 7,900 lbs and the overall speed of the tractor was a lot more than I expected. I did put rim guard in the front tires given I do not have a front loader and use it to lift a lot of rear weight.

One negative is that this tractor definitely sat out for the past three years with a lot of fading due to the UV rays. Seat also had a number of small cracks so that willl need replacing soon but overall a solid tractor. Dealer replaced the faded knobs and did an oil change as well so with only 15 hours on it I basically got a new tractor (even though it sat for 3 years) that will last me a very long time.