Kubota OEM vs Napa Oil Filters - Torn open comparison

[CMV]

... I appreciate his videos and always learn something. :thumbsup:

Same. I'll watch them for entertainment and learn something at same time Can't beat that. And more interesting than 99% of what I could find on TV

 

[ovrszd]

Same. I'll watch them for entertainment and learn something at same time Can't beat that. And more interesting than 99% of what I could find on TV

Few days ago I ordered some parts for my Ford 555A from Messicks. They'll arrive tomorrow. I have the Central US CNH warehouse 45 miles from me with a dealer in the same town. I get better service from Messick's in Pennsylvania.

 

[ericm979]

I like their videos but I turned off the L series vs Mahindra one. It was too much just denigrating the Mahindra, sometimes somewhat unfairly (I'm not a Mahindra owner though I'm a former Kubota owner). Normally Messicks videos are not like that, which I appreciate. I watched a lot of their videos when I was tractor shopping last year.

 

[IH3444]

Messicks is awesome for parts, both in pricing and availability. Neil does a great job explaining the differences, the stiffer rubber components are usually nitrile, the softer higher quality rubber is most likely silicone. Much better for temperature, and hot oil. The size of the filtration element is a no brainer, the Kubota is clearly better, and I'm certain the filtration material is superior. No micro particle testing was done, but I'm sure they are close with the OEM Kubota filter being better. Neil didn't test the relief springs, but the higher end Kubota filter most likely has also a higher relief spring pressure. This is critical, both for cold weather start up and also being sure that the oil in not bypassing easily. As he pointed out the thicker filter can is tougher. OEM filters for my equipment and synthetic quality oil. There are many studies on oil filters. Great reading. Oil Filter Comparison Study - GM Truck Central

 

[mike69440]

Messicks is awesome for parts, both in pricing and availability. Neil does a great job explaining the differences, the stiffer rubber components are usually nitrile, the softer higher quality rubber is most likely silicone. Much better for temperature, and hot oil. The size of the filtration element is a no brainer, the Kubota is clearly better, and I'm certain the filtration material is superior. No micro particle testing was done, but I'm sure they are close with the OEM Kubota filter being better. Neil didn't test the relief springs, but the higher end Kubota filter most likely has also a higher relief spring pressure. This is critical, both for cold weather start up and also being sure that the oil in not bypassing easily. As he pointed out the thicker filter can is tougher. OEM filters for my equipment and synthetic quality oil. There are many studies on oil filters. Great reading. Oil Filter Comparison Study - GM Truck Central

Oil filters not so much, but Kubota has 3 PN's for hydraulic Filters, that look the same on the outside and would fit my L39. Their is a difference in spec and construction.
I use the correct Kubota PN and will not use an aftermarket. The aftermarket is generic fits all. Relief pressures, Filter media, and that nifty internal magnet are features of the Kubota filter specific to the L39 L45 filter. As I do not change Oil every 400 hours, more like +1,000 Hrs, I don't skim on oil or filters.

 

[sideskraft]

I like their videos but I turned off the L series vs Mahindra one. It was too much just denigrating the Mahindra, sometimes somewhat unfairly (I'm not a Mahindra owner though I'm a former Kubota owner). Normally Messicks videos are not like that, which I appreciate. I watched a lot of their videos when I was tractor shopping last year.

I agree with you Eric. I saw that and was thinking, he must know that all of the product features and advantages of the Mahindra far outweigh the things he was pointing out. I did significant research and Kubota fell off my radar the same time as the E Series Deere -- both are good tractors, but for the money, there are many with more weight, features and lift capacities. I came close to buying a very nice 2015 Branson 3520 (best looking CUT IMO), but it was too far away, and I found my "Mahindra dealer of the year" on CL locally. I understand that Messicks is in the business of selling Kubota tractors, so positioning their brand in such a way as to make it look superior to their competition is smart -- I would certainly do the same. It's clear that Neil has been "well schooled" by his father and he's paid attention in Kubota dealer training classes. That's what separates successful people from those who aren't. It's up to each individual viewer of his videos to understand his perspective, which isn't going to give the competing brand a fair shake. I enjoy his videos because I've learned so much, as slanted as some of them are -- I say keep up the good work Neil!!

 

[ovrszd]

I agree with you Eric. I saw that and was thinking, he must know that all of the product features and advantages of the Mahindra far outweigh the things he was pointing out. I did significant research and Kubota fell off my radar the same time as the E Series Deere -- both are good tractors, but for the money, there are many with more weight, features and lift capacities. I came close to buying a very nice 2015 Branson 3520 (best looking CUT IMO), but it was too far away, and I found my "Mahindra dealer of the year" on CL locally. I understand that Messicks is in the business of selling Kubota tractors, so positioning their brand in such a way as to make it look superior to their competition is smart -- I would certainly do the same. It's clear that Neil has been "well schooled" by his father and he's paid attention in Kubota dealer training classes. That's what separates successful people from those who aren't. It's up to each individual viewer of his videos to understand his perspective, which isn't going to give the competing brand a fair shake. I enjoy his videos because I've learned so much, as slanted as some of them are -- I say keep up the good work Neil!!

We all suffer from "brand bias".

 

[IH3444]

Doing research for a possible replacement filter for my small JD diesel engine I have found this Kubota Filter HH1JO-32430 which has the same inlet threads, 20 x 1.5 as the JD M806418 OEM oil filter. The Kubota technical description states that it has a synthetic filter medium.
The JD filter medium appears to be regular cellulose filtration material. The lack of filtration area in the WIX/NAPA filters is apparent in Messick video.

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[IH3444]

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[WranglerX]

You should really look at multiple YouTube video's explaining good and bad of brands of oil filters.... There is a lot of disparity in the market place and brand name does not mean "everything"...