Kubota product design on some models just sux!

   / Kubota product design on some models just sux! #41  
Full featured tractors cost more than economy models. The dealer I work for sells many, many dozens of L, MX and M series Kubotas each year. Of those far less than 5 are Grand L tractors. Five tractors, not five dozen. Other areas undoubtedly have a different mix.
 
   / Kubota product design on some models just sux! #42  
You must have beat the heck out of it... I have 2 M's and the one has 2000 hours and the other 4000 hours and both pumps (and everything else) is just fine. I farm with them btw.
This is a B, not an M... Anyway, how do you beat the heck out of a "hydraulic pump" on a tractor that has NO remotes and has been taken care of and had the oil changed regularly??? answer: YOU DON'T!

Here's another SUX, yesterday I went to buy a couple kubota oil filters, 20 bucks a piece!! Even a kubota "fan boy" should be able to see that as a rip off!

SR
 
   / Kubota product design on some models just sux! #43  
I guess you don’t price many hydraulic filters. $20 does not buy many of any brand. If you mean engine oil filters, that is a dealer issue because Kubota MSRP is nowhere near $20 for a B series engine oil filter.
 
   / Kubota product design on some models just sux! #44  
I guess you don’t price many hydraulic filters. $20 does not buy many of any brand. If you mean engine oil filters, that is a dealer issue because Kubota MSRP is nowhere near $20 for a B series engine oil filter.

Yeah, try $40+ for hydraulic filter. Don't know why it should be that expensive, but it paid to buy the extra under carriage protection for the filters.
 
   / Kubota product design on some models just sux! #45  
I would add arm rests to the mx seat. It makes using the loader a lot more comfortable.

Wise choice. They also give you something to grab if you need to look behind you.
 
   / Kubota product design on some models just sux! #46  
I would have been fine with that except the salesman never told me that. In fact he could have gotten to buy a bigger tractor had he just pointed out the clearance underneath and the lack of protection.

And I don't see why Kubota couldn't offer a forest package of some sort for these compact tractors.

EH? Did you tell the salesperson your planned uses? Did you look under the tractor for height and just what was under it?
 
   / Kubota product design on some models just sux! #47  
EH? Did you tell the salesperson your planned uses? Did you look under the tractor for height and just what was under it?

Yep. And what was mind boggling is that the salesman did everything possible NOT to sell me a bigger tractor.

****, I was wanting any reason to get a bigger tractor but my wife was siding with the salesman. :laughing:

As a first time tractor buyer I was relying on the salesman.

When I asked about trading in my L3301 on a MX5200 the salesman told me the L3301 wasn't meant for working in the woods. After I rolled my eyes I left.
 
   / Kubota product design on some models just sux! #48  
Yep. And what was mind boggling is that the salesman did everything possible NOT to sell me a bigger tractor.

****, I was wanting any reason to get a bigger tractor but my wife was siding with the salesman. :laughing:

As a first time tractor buyer I was relying on the salesman.

When I asked about trading in my L3301 on a MX5200 the salesman told me the L3301 wasn't meant for working in the woods. After I rolled my eyes I left.

Unfortunate. So are you still looking at bigger? Or just dealing with what you have?

On a side note, my wife always tells me I go too small. Sales people love her. LOL. She upsized the Z and the MX.

She was right. ..........hopefully she misses these posts. LOL
 
   / Kubota product design on some models just sux!
  • Thread Starter
#49  
I've bought my first and only tractor 2 years ago, L3301 and haven't had the need of a tilt steering wheel or two pedal forward/backward design.

My only issue is the lack of protection for the two hydraulic filters. I've smashed both while working in the woods and had to buy a protection pan for both.

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Did you find a protector plate by chance? I would like to have one also. Thanks!
 
   / Kubota product design on some models just sux! #50  
I guess you don’t price many hydraulic filters. $20 does not buy many of any brand. If you mean engine oil filters, that is a dealer issue because Kubota MSRP is nowhere near $20 for a B series engine oil filter.
Yes, it was engine oil filters...

I guess I'm use to buying other brands of oil filters (that are larder in size) for bigger diesels and paying LESS for them!

SR
 
   / Kubota product design on some models just sux! #51  
   / Kubota product design on some models just sux! #52  
Unfortunate. So are you still looking at bigger? Or just dealing with what you have?

On a side note, my wife always tells me I go too small. Sales people love her. LOL. She upsized the Z and the MX.

She was right. ..........hopefully she misses these posts. LOL

I wouldn't mind going to the MX series tractor but I'm still upside down on my loan (2nd year of a 5 year loan) for the tractor and implements.

The dealership was offering me $14k on trade-in, which if it was paid off I would have done it.
 
   / Kubota product design on some models just sux! #53  
If you mean engine oil filters, that is a dealer issue because Kubota MSRP is nowhere near $20 for a B series engine oil filter.
Thanks for getting me to check around on filter prices, I can't blame the 20 dollar filters on Kubota, I called a couple other places and they were just under $11.00 ea. at those two dealers.

Sometimes it's the principal, so I'm taking the gold plated filters back!

SR
 
   / Kubota product design on some models just sux! #54  
Yes, it was engine oil filters...

I guess I'm use to buying other brands of oil filters (that are larder in size) for bigger diesels and paying LESS for them!

SR
Your dealer is ripping you off if they're charging that price.
Messick's has the engine oil filters for our B series (PN: HH150-32094 ) for $10.97 each.

Aaron Z
 
   / Kubota product design on some models just sux! #55  
I got the 3rd function skid plate & loader QC guard from them for my Grand L4060. The Grands have a few weak spots for getting hit underneath too, so going bigger isn't always a fix. The 3rd function plumbing is a huge vulnerability hanging way down. Hydraulic filters are tucked up a bit, but still able to be hit by an errant stick.
 
   / Kubota product design on some models just sux! #56  
I got the 3rd function skid plate & loader QC guard from them for my Grand L4060. The Grands have a few weak spots for getting hit underneath too, so going bigger isn't always a fix. The 3rd function plumbing is a huge vulnerability hanging way down. Hydraulic filters are tucked up a bit, but still able to be hit by an errant stick.

Anyone with a Grand L who plans to work in any sort of rough terrain should protect the soft underbelly. I had a buddy make my skid plate.
 
   / Kubota product design on some models just sux! #57  
Your dealer is ripping you off if they're charging that price.
Messick's has the engine oil filters for our B series (PN: HH150-32094 ) for $10.97 each.

Aaron Z

I only and always use Kubota filters on my Kubota tractors. Especially the hydraulic fluid side. In my case, my dealer's filter prices are very much inline with Baldwin or Fleetguard. Filters and lubricants are the cheapest things you will ever use, why scrimp.
 
   / Kubota product design on some models just sux! #58  
This is a B, not an M... Anyway, how do you beat the heck out of a "hydraulic pump" on a tractor that has NO remotes and has been taken care of and had the oil changed regularly??? answer: YOU DON'T!

Here's another SUX, yesterday I went to buy a couple kubota oil filters, 20 bucks a piece!! Even a kubota "fan boy" should be able to see that as a rip off!

SR

Pump life depends entirely on how hot it gets and more importantly, what fluid you use. You cheap out on fluid, it lessens pump life. I always use top tier fluids, in my case Chevron THC All Weather Synthetic. It's even more expensive that SUDT but I have both my MJ's on the same fluid diet with Kubota filters. I get it in 55 gallon drums delivered. Each of my tractors requires 15 gallons a change and 12 quarts of engine oil.

A B is way too tiny for my use. More of a residential unit for the suburban wannabe farmer.

Not sure what I pay for filters, my wife pays the bill but it's not over the top by a long shot. Really don't matter, it's a business expense for the farm.
 

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