Dealer has talked to Kubota and Kubota told him that the FEL issue has been fixed with a redesigned mounting plate. The dealer has order the new plate and Kubota is picking up the tab. I am eager to see the new plate and hope it works. I was getting a little concerned about the Kubota loader. But as long as Kubota is willing to stand by their product, I am willing to keep using it. I do like the M125X tractor. I just want to have confidence in the FEL.
Kubota Quick Attach Loader Problems
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Please tell me more. I bought a M105X a couple of months ago. I finally got all the adaptor plates welded onto my attachments.
Does your pins on your quick tach go down very far into the latch area? I have a 1 inch pin that is tappered and it only goes down into latch so about 1/8" to 1/4" of the pins thickness of the 1 inch pin is holding on all 3 attachments. I was concerned about this from the beggining but told that was the way they hooked up. I am not sure that the bottom of the QA seats into the plates to allow the pins to fully catch. Meaning as you attach the top goes in and you roll the bucket back. the top is real close but he bottom has about 1/4" or more gap between QA and plate on attachment.
The first day I hooked on my grapple and rolled the bucket forward or down I snapped the tips of the tappered locking pins off and dropped the grapple. My dealer called Kubota and the best I have heard back is Kubota hasn't had anyone break the pins off before.
I agree that the spring tension on the latch pins are important since I could see that with little pressure the pin will move up releasing attachment. So to remedy this till Kubota figures something out. ( I can't wait till they figure this out to use tractor I need it everyday). I welded a piece of 3/8" steel block 1"x1" to the plate on my attachments so now it catches higher up on the 1" tappered pin. Granted it could make it harder to hook up. I pushed block in a little so the tappered pins have some good pressure.
The only time this will be a problem is backdragging etc... However my tractor I traded off never came distached once in all the years I had it and I worked it pretty hard.
I am not sure that the skid steer quicktack can handle the larger tractor power.
I love my tractor but think the loader is the biggest dissappointment so far. Meaning the QA and the removing and installing the whole loader on tractor.
Does your pins on your quick tach go down very far into the latch area? I have a 1 inch pin that is tappered and it only goes down into latch so about 1/8" to 1/4" of the pins thickness of the 1 inch pin is holding on all 3 attachments. I was concerned about this from the beggining but told that was the way they hooked up. I am not sure that the bottom of the QA seats into the plates to allow the pins to fully catch. Meaning as you attach the top goes in and you roll the bucket back. the top is real close but he bottom has about 1/4" or more gap between QA and plate on attachment.
The first day I hooked on my grapple and rolled the bucket forward or down I snapped the tips of the tappered locking pins off and dropped the grapple. My dealer called Kubota and the best I have heard back is Kubota hasn't had anyone break the pins off before.
I agree that the spring tension on the latch pins are important since I could see that with little pressure the pin will move up releasing attachment. So to remedy this till Kubota figures something out. ( I can't wait till they figure this out to use tractor I need it everyday). I welded a piece of 3/8" steel block 1"x1" to the plate on my attachments so now it catches higher up on the 1" tappered pin. Granted it could make it harder to hook up. I pushed block in a little so the tappered pins have some good pressure.
The only time this will be a problem is backdragging etc... However my tractor I traded off never came distached once in all the years I had it and I worked it pretty hard.
I am not sure that the skid steer quicktack can handle the larger tractor power.
I love my tractor but think the loader is the biggest dissappointment so far. Meaning the QA and the removing and installing the whole loader on tractor.
The pins on my M125X are the same as your M105X. But I have never broke a pin off. The first time I had a problem was when I had the bucket on pushing dirt/limbs etc. I figured that some how one of the limbs pushed one of the handles up causing the the right side of the bucket to come off of the mounting plate. This caused the left side of the mounting plate to get twisted. The second time it happened was when I had a set of pallet forks on the tractor picking up cross ties. This time I did bury one of the the forks in the ground a little. The next thing I know one of the sides came out of the FEL mounting plate and other side was twisted again. Two things concern me about my FEL. If you look at the top of the mounting plate it is triangular shaped and hollow in the middle. It just does not look heavy duty enough to handle this size tractor. The second thing is the handles are too easy to raise and lower. I plan on seeing if I can adjust the tension on the handles. The dealer is suppose to get the new mounting plate this week. The loader does a good job of handling round bales but I always feel I must be careful when putting it under a little stress. I did email Kubota about 10 days ago but never got a response. I guess my only hope is through my dealer. Let me know if you find out anything else.
Good news. I got the new FEL plate installed. I noticed the follow improvements: 1. The bottom pins are much larger and appear to made from a harden steel. 2. The handles now are much harder to lift up and some what lock when in the down position.
Now it is time to test the new FEL plate out. I plan on tearing down an old fence row next week.
Now it is time to test the new FEL plate out. I plan on tearing down an old fence row next week.
wushaw
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M105X, I don't have the size tractor you have but I do understand what your talking about when you hook up an implement to your QA, I will have to grab my bucket or forks and lift up an let it fall so it will seat correctly (lay flat on the QA plate) in the QA plate or I will get like what your getting...only 1/4" of pin engagement.
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LarryRB
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om my L 48 the front bucket was always loose and at times, flat fell off.. A call to the dealer, and next day I had a new spring pack... I forget now, it was 2 years or so ago, I think to remember the dealer saying several spring packs were weak from the beginning,. no cost to me and ten minutes or less and fixed.
Glad to hear you got a new updated QA. I was wondering with what you explain since my tractor is new if I have the new style or old style. I know my pins are 1" and they are hardened by the way the tips broke off. This might lead me to believe I already have the new style.
As for getting loader to attach better. I was out of town yesterday and drove by a lot that had a new 105S on the lot. I stopped and looked and the Quick tach fit much better than mine does. There was no gap near the bottom and the pins engaged much more. (mine will no go in more since I have put lip of bucket against something hard and pushed and it will not fit any tighter.) After looking more at mine I believe that without grinding or another type of aggressive modification that it will never fit into the quick attach any better. It is hard to explain but from the top angle (that fits under lip in bucket Quick attach) to the bottom angle (at bottom that is angled near where attach pins are) is to long. Not by much but enough to not let it seat into the QA plate. I have 3 plates that fit similar so I think it must be the QA part on the loader. This is my uneducated guess I will see if I can't get dealer to look at it.
As for getting loader to attach better. I was out of town yesterday and drove by a lot that had a new 105S on the lot. I stopped and looked and the Quick tach fit much better than mine does. There was no gap near the bottom and the pins engaged much more. (mine will no go in more since I have put lip of bucket against something hard and pushed and it will not fit any tighter.) After looking more at mine I believe that without grinding or another type of aggressive modification that it will never fit into the quick attach any better. It is hard to explain but from the top angle (that fits under lip in bucket Quick attach) to the bottom angle (at bottom that is angled near where attach pins are) is to long. Not by much but enough to not let it seat into the QA plate. I have 3 plates that fit similar so I think it must be the QA part on the loader. This is my uneducated guess I will see if I can't get dealer to look at it.
North GA
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I am having doubts about whether my new L3130 with LA723 FEL QA will perform. My wedge pins are black and they only extend about 3/4" beyond the slot. Should the latest pins be chrome?
My son bought a M9540 at the same time I bought my L3130. He has exactly the same set up on the loader pins as my little L3130. I just can't see how they will survive a 95 HP tractor.
Should I be asking my dealer to get us updated QA pins? Our units are only 2 weeks old.
My son bought a M9540 at the same time I bought my L3130. He has exactly the same set up on the loader pins as my little L3130. I just can't see how they will survive a 95 HP tractor.
Should I be asking my dealer to get us updated QA pins? Our units are only 2 weeks old.
I have my new QA. The new pins are chrome and I would guess 1 1/4" instead of 1 ". The black pins tappered down to a sharp point where the Chrome pin tappers down to about 1/4". I have alot more confidence in the new QA Plate. On my new plate the pins are 3/4 of the tapper down in the slot where the old plate only the tips of the pins held. I never thought my old plate fit the way it should. I also think there is more resistance on the arms that latch so they should be more secure.
I was told by my dealer that Kubota said that I was the smallest tractor that had trouble with the old style plate. Most of the tractors that was having the problem was the 125 size.
I was told that Kubota would only replace to the new style if the old QA was tweeked. I told my dealer to order mine and I would tweek the old one. Well my dealer just replaced it and told me not to take a chance on bending my loader arms or cylinders.
I was told by my dealer that Kubota said that I was the smallest tractor that had trouble with the old style plate. Most of the tractors that was having the problem was the 125 size.
I was told that Kubota would only replace to the new style if the old QA was tweeked. I told my dealer to order mine and I would tweek the old one. Well my dealer just replaced it and told me not to take a chance on bending my loader arms or cylinders.