Kubota "Throw away tractor"?

buzst · Mar 3, 2003

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Strongbow,
As others have said all of the big three (4?) tractors are imported and they are all quality machines. The only serious advantage that Kubota has is that they manufacture for and sell to their customer - the end user. The other manufactures only sell (in the US) to the American reseller (green,blue, red, yellow) who has no more loyalty back to the Mfg. than the contract that permits him to put his name on the tractor. Should green,blue, red, or yellow ever decide to change their mfg relationship i could easily envison part availibility becomming difficult. As kubota is the mfg of the machines they sell this should be less of a concern.

JimMc · Mar 3, 2003

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I've always thought that was interesting as well. Of the top 4 (in 2002 sales) tractor companies in the US, only the orange (#1 Kubota and #4 Kioti) build their own. All the big "U.S." brands have someone else build for them.

thcri · Mar 3, 2003

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I think we are starting to be no different than that sales person and have gotten off the original topic here. Kubota is not a throw away tractor. It all boils down to an imature sales person that won't last long in the field if he continues to talk the way he does. All of a sudden we are bad mouthing everything here but orange.

Murph

DK35vince · Mar 3, 2003

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There are certain members here just as bias as that dealer !!

Anonymous Poster · Mar 3, 2003

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OK, now I am reassured, didn't much trust that fella anyway. The only trouble I am having now is deciding on the BX 22 or something a bit larger. There is another thread here that addresses that so I am heading that way. Thanks all, you made my day.

cnoel · Mar 3, 2003

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It seems you have your answer, but I have to throw in my 2 cents. Yes, I'm a bit biased, and as an Orange dealer I am disgusted /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif. Kubota's fill rate on "A" list or fast moving parts is 99.5% and they're still not happy. I believe total fill rate is around 98% including the vintage 70's tractors. I can promise that Kubota in ANYTHING BUT a throwaway tractor, but even though i truly believe that Kubota is the BEST tractor out there, I would NEVER bash the competition like that. There are many good companys out there making good product, and to blanket bash someone that way is just pure ignorance. Good luck on your purchase, and whatever color you choose, stay away from dealers like that! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

BigDave · Mar 3, 2003

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Darn!! I guess, I'm too late. Anyway, just in case anyone is still out there...Kubotas are disposable tractors...and my real name is Bill Gates /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Two things I do when I purchase anything of significant value. First, ignore anything any salesman tells you about the competition...rumors, half-truths, and all-out-lies: it's all worthless. Second, now you assume the salesman knows something about what he is selling. Yeah, I know that's a big assumption. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Ask questions about an item cheaper/smaller than what you are really interested, and after his pitch is over, act undecided and ask about the next more expensive item. Most salesmen will turn around and bad mouth the cheaper unit they just tried to sell you. Finally, and maybe you want to do this at follow-up visit, move up to the next more expensive item, and listen while he bad mouths the middle-cost item you are really interesting in purchasing as he praises the more expensive item. Now you have a salesperson bad mouthing his own equipment, supposedly something they should know about. At one Kubota dealer and in one day, I started at the BX2200, moved up to the B7500, then to the B2410, then the B2910, then as I walked over to the L3010, my wife told me to cut it out...she knows my methods. I don't recommend taking the wife tractor shopping, a guy doesn't get to drive a L4310 that way. The salesman was none the wiser, but I had a lot of good and bad information one each model. I did this with each of the big three when I was tractor shopping and they all fell for it. It worked every time. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Finally, I wouldn't imagine that there would be any problems finding parts for any of the big three, or even the top 6+ tractor sales leaders. In today's global economy, you should be able to find parts for the top 20, that is if the part exists, but it might take some determination on your behalf. In the early 80's I had a grey market Suzuki Jeep (Yeah I know it isn't really a Jeep) that needed a new exhaust. The importer had no parts stocked and was over a thousand miles away anyway. So what did I do? Well 20 years ago, I had to use the phone, instead of the internet, but I found a Suzuki dealer in Canada who had the parts, but he wasn't familiar with the models shipped to Puerto Rico and then later exported to the U.S. I took a chance, ordered the part for the Canadian model (different name) and it fit like a glove. Today, with the internet, it would be much easier to make a this purchase with much greater confidence.

kch · Mar 3, 2003

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I own a NH TC33 and a Kubota B2910 and I will say in general it is easier getting parts for the NH then the Kubota. One of the main dofferences I have found is that fittings and general items of universal sizes that can be purchased at your local Tractor supply store fit the NH and not the kubota.

riptides · Mar 4, 2003

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In response to wdn

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Actually they became the King's property. Break downs included flat tires, lock-outs and a host of upsurd other things you and I would scoff at. The dump areas would classify over here as pre-owned vehicle lots. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Unreal, really. I learned to love the 'benz over there. Some of those Sheiks had quite good taste on personal customizations.

-Mike Z. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

msocko3 · Mar 5, 2003

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I'm on my 2nd Kubota within the last 3 years, If I would have thought it to be a throw away I wouldn't have bought another one. Heck the dealer I bought my 1st one from BX1800 sells Orange and Blue, he gave me $8500 on the trade of my 3 year old BX1800 with 60" MMM with 193 hours for a new BX2200 with 60" MMM. I figure I'll keep this one until the warrenty runs out and maybe pickup another one. I love my Bota!