kubota vs. kioti

[Cherokee140]

Sounds like you know the answer, When I buy anything used the shape the thing is in is a big key for me. You say one has a 3pt that does not work....that is just what you know....how else has it been treated....was the oil ever changed, was it lubed. I have seen cars that are a year old just fall apart because the owner did not care for it.

Buy the one that is in the best shape and it the most easy in your area to get serviced.

Where I live there was no Kioti dealer anywhere close to me.

 

[k0ua]

Sounds like you know the answer, When I buy anything used the shape the thing is in is a big key for me. You say one has a 3pt that does not work....that is just what you know....how else has it been treated....was the oil ever changed, was it lubed. I have seen cars that are a year old just fall apart because the owner did not care for it.

Buy the one that is in the best shape and it the most easy in your area to get serviced.

Where I live there was no Kioti dealer anywhere close to me.

Both of his tractors were brand new. His Kubota L3200 exhibited the jerky 3pt hitch syndrome. His Kubota dealer gave him all of his money back, to the credit of that dealer!

 

[LD1]

I should just leave this one alone, but....

The CK35 is darn near a twin of the L3400 in terms of specs. It is a deluxe tractor though. Like comparing a f-150 work truck to one of them lincoln trucks that that is power everything, etc.

As far as capabilities go, I dont think there is anything that a CK35 could do that my L3400 cant. In terms of work being done. So I am not sure I see the justification of calling a CK35 a tank compared to the L3200

Sure, the kioti is a nicer tractor at the same price point. But the kubota is a kubota. They build a helluva name and are able to charge more because of it. Give it another decade or so, if kioti keeps on the same track they are on, I believe their prices will be right inline with deere, CNH, kubota, etc.

I am not brand loyal to anything. I own a kubota now, dont mean my next one will be. When I bought mine, kioti was still too new for my liking, and the nearest dealer about 2 hours away. When I have a kubota, CNH, and deere dealer 20 min away. So, I bought the best value for me at that time. Next time, it may be a kioti, or mahindra, or LS, or even anther kubota. Just dont know yet.

 

[LD1]

Too light and way under powered and will never buy another.

That statement almost makes no sense.

I would have to buy a Kubota 30-50% higher hp rating to do same work as others.

Examples??

You saying that a CNH TC33 can do the same work as a kubota 50hp (L5240, MX5100, M5040)??? I just dont see it.

And engine torque is of less importance (IMO) than engine HP. Quite simply, HP is HP. IT wont change. But you can achieve whatever torque you want with gearing.

 

[chuck172]

I should just leave this one alone, but....

The CK35 is darn near a twin of the L3400 in terms of specs. It is a deluxe tractor though. Like comparing a f-150 work truck to one of them lincoln trucks that that is power everything, etc.

As far as capabilities go, I dont think there is anything that a CK35 could do that my L3400 cant. In terms of work being done. So I am not sure I see the justification of calling a CK35 a tank compared to the L3200

Sure, the kioti is a nicer tractor at the same price point. But the kubota is a kubota. They build a helluva name and are able to charge more because of it. Give it another decade or so, if kioti keeps on the same track they are on, I believe their prices will be right inline with deere, CNH, kubota, etc.

I am not brand loyal to anything. I own a kubota now, dont mean my next one will be. When I bought mine, kioti was still too new for my liking, and the nearest dealer about 2 hours away. When I have a kubota, CNH, and deere dealer 20 min away. So, I bought the best value for me at that time. Next time, it may be a kioti, or mahindra, or LS, or even anther kubota. Just dont know yet.

I'm not comparing the Kioti to the kubota L3400, I'm comparing it to the L3200. Both prices were the same. I don't know how much more the 3400 goes for.
I just came in from skidding logs, and doing some loader work. I tried to skid the same logs with the Kubota, and it couln't do it. I had no problem with the Kioti. Like I said before there is no comparison between the two. I don't know anything about the L3400 except it's more money, still considered an economy model by the Kubota people, and it still has the Herky Jerky 3pt.

 

[LD1]

I'm not comparing the Kioti to the kubota L3400, I'm comparing it to the L3200. Both prices were the same. I don't know how much more the 3400 goes for.
I just came in from skidding logs, and doing some loader work. I tried to skid the same logs with the Kubota, and it couln't do it. I had no problem with the Kioti. Like I said before there is no comparison between the two. I don't know anything about the L3400 except it's more money, still considered an economy model by the Kubota people, and it still has the Herky Jerky 3pt.

The 3400 is basically the same thing as the 3200. Before the 3200 and 3800 it was the 2800 and 3400. The newer ones have the more modern rounded look to them. But still same basic tractor.

What kind of tires did you have on the kubota and what do you have now? And were the tires on the kubota loaded and are the ones you have now loaded??

Did you try with the loader off on the kubota and loader on, on the kioti?

Are you pulling from the drawbar? or a hitch on the 3ph?

Ground condition? Muddy or dry?

I think there is more variables than just having a kioti CK35 or having a L3200. The kioti is 500 lbs heavier. I'll give it that. Which would help traction. But the way you describe as "kubota couldnt and kioti had no trouble" tells me that something else was different other than the shade of orange you had under you.

With a FEL on and possibly loaded tires, you are looking at a ~4000 tractor with the L3200. And if it absolutly would not budge the logs, I dont think a 4500# tractor with the same tires would do it with "no trouble". Just not that much difference.

But if tires were different, or conditions, or hitch point.....that explains everything.

 

[Cherokee140]

Both of his tractors were brand new. His Kubota L3200 exhibited the jerky 3pt hitch syndrome. His Kubota dealer gave him all of his money back, to the credit of that dealer!

That is some service....that alone would make me want to buy from that dealer again.

 

[k0ua]

That is some service....that alone would make me want to buy from that dealer again.

Yes, that dealer certainly was a very fair minded fella. I am sure some dealers would have balked. But he had an unhappy customer, so he rectified that.

 

[k0ua]

Kubota L3200hst weight 2623lbs.
Kioti Ck35 hst weight 3114lbs

So just shy of 500 lbs.. Understand I am not joining the fight, I am just publishing facts..

 

[chuck172]

The Kobuta had Ag tires, loaded. The Kioti has Industrial tires, not loaded (yet).