kubota vs. kioti

   / kubota vs. kioti #141  
so who makes the better steam engine.....kioti or kubota ?
 
   / kubota vs. kioti #142  
The green guys will say John Deere
:D
 
   / kubota vs. kioti #143  
The green guys will say John Deere
:D

Yes the John Deere tractors are still steam driven, and as steam driven tractors go, they are very well made, but the Japanese and Korean tractor manufactures have long ago progressed on to the diesel engine for their machines.:D:m1helmet:
 
   / kubota vs. kioti #144  
I'm so confused.... image.jpg
 
   / kubota vs. kioti #145  
It's kind hard to follow this thread because people keep flipping between the theoretical, and the practical.

From a pure theoretical perspective, you would always want the highest horsepower engine, knowing that by gearing, you could get whatever torque and speed that you needed for the application. Does anybody debate that?

From a practical standpoint, transmissions have to be reasonably sized, with a reasonable number of gears.

No argument from me on your theoretical statement. Precisely what I been saying.

Also no debate from me on the practical point. It wasn't me who started in with extreme examples.

Again: the discussion got started about what is more important when tractor shopping. And I thin we can all agree that if one is shipping for a tractor, they aren't going to have 15k rpm motors like a motorcycle. Tractor engines are already built with low-end torque and longevity in mind. It boils down to selecting HP.
 
   / kubota vs. kioti #146  
Kioti is a fine tractor at 200hrs. At 800, 1000hrs they will start to fall apart. I have had two friends witht them, one the engine threw a rod at 350hrs, the other had the transmission bust, mowing his lawn! Thats not quality. After 5 years, then you will see why people buy John Deere, Kubota, CNH/Ls. They hold up. IF well maintained they will still run like new. A kioti no matter how well maintained and taken care of will start to fall apart after a few hundred hours.
 
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   / kubota vs. kioti #147  
Kioti is a fine tractor a 200hrs. After 5 years, then you will see why people buy John Deere, Kubota, CNH/Ls. They hold up. IF well maintained they will still run like new. A kioti no matter how well maintained and taken care of will start to fall apart after a few hundred hours.

So that's it? Should we just trust you on that, or do you want to add some anecdotal evidence? :rolleyes: :thumbdown:
 
   / kubota vs. kioti #148  
Ill try to give as much as possible ;) A have had a few friends with kioti's. I grew up on a farm, and a lot of my family are farmers. We run tractors for long times, and we run them hard (well maintained though). Everything from 24hp to 360hp. The John Deeres have stood up the best. I have a small horse farm now, and do landscaping. My John Deere 2320 has done everything I have ever asked it too do and I have a done A Lot with it. Restored a house, built stone walls, walk ways, dug trenches, removed stumps etc. It has a better power to weight ratio, then my old mini excavator a Bobcat 335. The kiotis my friends have had have tried to do the same work, have done it, and then the tractors died. I would rather pay more, for a machine that I will have to pay less for service, and will give 10+ years of service.
 
   / kubota vs. kioti #149  
Kioti is a fine tractor a 200hrs. After 5 years, then you will see why people buy John Deere, Kubota, CNH/Ls. They hold up. IF well maintained they will still run like new. A kioti no matter how well maintained and taken care of will start to fall apart after a few hundred hours.
My previous tractor was a John Deere 850. Owned it for 15 years.
My current tractor is a a Kioti DK 35. I have owned it for 13 years and 1835+ hours. Still runs and works like new.
My Kioti DK has been every bit as well build, solid and reliable as my John Deere.
 
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   / kubota vs. kioti #150  
Ill try to give as much as possible ;) A have had a few friends with kioti's. I grew up on a farm, and a lot of my family are farmers. We run tractors for long times, and we run them hard (well maintained though). Everything from 24hp to 360hp. The John Deeres have stood up the best. I have a small horse farm now, and do landscaping. My John Deere 2320 has done everything I have ever asked it too do and I have a done A Lot with it. Restored a house, built stone walls, walk ways, dug trenches, removed stumps etc. It has a better power to weight ratio, then my old mini excavator a Bobcat 335. The kiotis my friends have had have tried to do the same work, have done it, and then the tractors died. I would rather pay more, for a machine that I will have to pay less for service, and will give 10+ years of service.

Just bend over, open your wallet, and let them take what they want, they count on that :thumbsup:

I'd be willing to bet your machine came with a "Tool Holder"...in the form of a seatbelt....
 

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