Kubota VS Mahindra Max

   / Kubota VS Mahindra Max #51  
I can't believe how many people either didn't listen to the whole thing or didn't read the intro. I KNOW it is an old Kubota. Barely nothing has changed. The driveline is still like a lawnmower. The steering is still out front in harms way. The 3 pt links are still inverted and hard to use. The drawbar is still not a real drawbar. The sheetmetal however is new and they finally added an RPM guage. Whoop de doo! Do any of the aesthetics that changed help the tractor perform better or make it a better value? The Kubota video dogged the Max because they said it was cheap. All my video did was dispute the false claims. Y'all get a grip and realize that the Kubota video was SLANTED. I just showed off how wrong it was
 
   / Kubota VS Mahindra Max #52  
Mahindradon,

I commend your passion for your brand. I guess if you were as professional as you say then you would not have compared a 10+yr old unit to your brand new one. Second, I find your video that you made in your basement extremely unprofessional. As a dealer this is how you promote your business? Third, I actually checked out a local Mahindra "dealer" who could not give me very much info at all except handing me a flyer containing a picture and some specs. He then was very quick to get back to whatever he was doing behind the counter. I guess this is how Mahindra trained all it's dealers/salespersons??? My Kubota dealer didn't bash any brand but asked me what I was looking for and then was very quick to offer a test drive and then proceeded to take me around the dealership show me the facility and then give me info and let the machine sell itself. I suggest that you should channel your passion and talk to Mahindra about helping to make a quality video that can promote your equipment.

Are you serious? Did you not notice the complete misrepresentations in the Kubota video. Everyone wants to focus on the fact that it was an older Kubota. So what? Nothing has changed with the BX to make it a better tractor. I stated several times that it is an older Kubota(although obvious) If I had a brand new Kubota the only difference in my video would be that it has an RPM guage now. We sell based on our customers needs. Sorry your local guy didn't.
 
   / Kubota VS Mahindra Max #53  
Moriboy. Did you not see Kubotas video was full of lies? It bashed the Max and then didn't allow comments. There was nothing slanted about my video, it may have seemed that way because it was a rebuttal to a slanted video so it had to be that way. At least I am airing my video on a Kubota owners thread to give all of the orange blooded folks a chance to critic!
 
   / Kubota VS Mahindra Max
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#54  
Everyone wants to focus on the fact that it was an older Kubota. So what? Nothing has changed with the BX to make it a better tractor. I stated several times that it is an older Kubota(although obvious) If I had a brand new Kubota the only difference in my video would be that it has an RPM guage now.

We have all stated plenty of differences in the the newer BX's.

Why are you comparing the Max to a BX anyway? The Max is not a SCUT!
 
   / Kubota VS Mahindra Max #55  
MahindraDon-how about selling YOUR tractor! Your last post says nothing about YOUR tractor. Aren't you in the business of SELLING Mahindra Tractors? You should be pushing the great features of the Mahindra Max if it is such a good tractor. I don't doubt that it is a good tractor - I haven't seen one.

Your video was poorly conceived and poorly carried out. Because it was so poorly done and you say more about a competitor it lacks credibility. Any additional argument that you make lacks credibility especially when you are talking about the Kubota rather than the Mahindra Max. Did they teach you that sales technique in Mahindra Dealer School? I hope not because apparently it hasn't worked on this audience.

My experience looking at the Mahindra tractors was that they are ok tractors - just okay. Your sales technique as evidenced in the video certainly doesn't help change MY mind at all. If I were your boss I would prohibit you from speaking the name of any other tractor 24/7 for 365 until you could recite the features of OUR tractors in your sleep.
 
   / Kubota VS Mahindra Max #56  
I can't believe how many people either didn't listen to the whole thing or didn't read the intro. I KNOW it is an old Kubota. Barely nothing has changed. The driveline is still like a lawnmower. The steering is still out front in harms way. The 3 pt links are still inverted and hard to use. The drawbar is still not a real drawbar. The sheetmetal however is new and they finally added an RPM guage. Whoop de doo! Do any of the aesthetics that changed help the tractor perform better or make it a better value? The Kubota video dogged the Max because they said it was cheap. All my video did was dispute the false claims. Y'all get a grip and realize that the Kubota video was SLANTED. I just showed off how wrong it was

The thing that is laughable about you Dandy, is that you genuinely believe your own BS. MANY people have pointed out the SIGNIFICANT changes between the Kubota in your video and the 2013 version. Just because you choose to ignore it does not make that fact any less glaring. It's devastating to your claims, so you just ignore it. Fine what ever.

But let's get back to the FACT that even if you had used a 2013 version of the Kubota, you would still be comparing apples to oranges. The Max 25 does not compare to to the Bota, JD or Massey SCUT's directly, ironically for many of the reasons you flame about. Tell us all why the MAX should not be compared to the B series Kubota tractors? Or JD's 1026? Or Massey's 2012 MF1526/28? I am sure there are excuses a plenty. But nobody cares, because they are just excuses. There has been Threads all over the internet waging war on what the MAX 22-25's really are, "SCUT or CUT". And they all boil down to the same dang thing. It simply does not matter what Mahindra wants to call their tractors. It's irrelevant. The only thing that really matters is that each of Mahindra's competitors indeed make tractors that are far more comparable. Fine whatever.

But how about this notion that everyone else's SCTUTS are really just "Lawn Mowers". Says Who? You Dandy? And you are some kind of authority because why? Only a blithering Idiot would compare a Garden Tractor, or a Lawn Mower to at SCUT. Well, actually Mahindra does, but that's beside the point. SCUT's originally came about to BE much more then just a Lawn mower. Are they built exactly like full sized tractors? **** NO!, and they don't need to be either. In fact, since the introduction of the SCUT class by Bota YEARS ago, they have been hugely popular. By in large, you don't hear negative feedback about them,,, no boo hooing because they don't live up to expectations. Most people are thoroughly impressed by the utility of these SCUT sized machines. But along comes Mahindra with their new MAX, and all of a sudden we are all supposed to jump on board with the notion that things like the BX and GC SCUT's are really just glorified lawn mowers? I don't think so masta Don. Even I can't say fine what ever on this issue.

Why do you keep blathering on about the draw bar on the MAX? Can you answer me that? Because here is the thing that blows me away. Up until Mahindra made this some kind of a tag line, NOBODY found the draw hitch, what ever you want to call it, to be inadequate on any of the SCUT's out there. What, exactly do you want to pull with the current line up of SCUT's that can not be accomplished with the "Wimpy" setup that has been in use for more then a decade? Who is out there pulling full hay wagons with their SCUT? This is just the stupidest thing I have ever heard of, to make the draw bar some kind of issue. It's just,,,,, not an issue. So the MAX has a more substantial draw bar. BIG DEAL, so does every other CUT on the market. Your point is? Oh yea, your point is that your CUT is not a SCUT. By the way, I don't see any of the other SCUT''s using a MMM height adjustment scheme from the neolithic period like Mahindra either, and thank GOD for that.

You have not at all made your argument. And you sure as heck have not rallied a ton of support for your cause. Sub Compact Utility Tractors are not supposed to be COMPACT UTILITY TRACTORS. Otherwise, they freakin would be. They are exactly what they were designed to be. And just because Mahindra designed an under powered, Tiny CUT, does not mean they get to redefine what a SCUT is. And Mahindra also does not get to simply ignore that the competition has been building SIMILAR CUT's for freakin years. You are seriously going to rail about how "Slanted" the Kubota video is? Does your hipocrisy know no limits? Honestly, you would have done sooooooo much better just to let this "Slight" go and continue selling your product on its real merits. It does have some you know. But as another poster already said, I think you are just super butt hurt that the competition continues to out sell your product. You are NOT doing your product any favors fighting this battle. I would not buy a Mahindra now if you wanted to give me one, not just because I am generally not in love with the tractor, but primarily because the people behind the tractor are completely unreliable and misguided. No way would I spend 20+ thousand dollars after this display.
 
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   / Kubota VS Mahindra Max #57  
Well that was six pages of posts directed at a brick wall.

MahindraDon if anything your thread/video and what it generated is sure to reduce the number of maxes sold this year.

If you want to be honest, and I think that is what people buying want.

1. Don't compare it to the BX compare it to the B Yes the kubota video was bad for doing so. Marketing departments have been doing stupid things for decades.
2. Compare new to new
3. and I say this with a bit of myrth, if you don't know how to attach the backhoe take the time and learn!
 
   / Kubota VS Mahindra Max #58  
What everyone else said and don't blame us for not watching or listening to your original "disclaimer" about it being an older model then come back and essentially say it is meaningless as it is the same tractor. Like I said, I OWN BOTH old and new and there is a significant difference.

You point out that Kubota's video is slanted and not "fair" WAAH, look at all the other John Deere v Kubota, Kubota v John Deere, Chevy v Ford and on and on, it is sadly what is done today in advertising. I don't much care for it, but you are taking it as a personal affront which you feel compelled to rectify only to make something worse than that about which you rail against. Put your big boy pants on and go about your life, you certainly aren't doing yourself any favors by beating this dead horse. The sad part is the Mahindra does have some pretty nice features, but many wouldn't even consider one now. My dealer is about like the ones described by other members so I wouldn't buy one for that reason alone, but until now I had no particular negative feelings about the brand.
 
   / Kubota VS Mahindra Max #59  
Ok, I really won't post on this thread anymore but guys y'all aren't serious. Did I compare a Max to a BX? Wonder why....? The video produced by KUBOTA compared a BX to a........ Mahindra MAX. I didn't do it you guys. I simply made a video refuting the lies by Kubota about the Mahindra Max. Break the video down, it leads with a misleading statement by Kubota and then a rebuttal by me for every scene. SCUT, CUT, tractor schmactor! These are similar sized machines made to do work in small spaces. The END!
 
   / Kubota VS Mahindra Max
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#60  
Ok, I really won't post on this thread anymore but guys y'all aren't serious. Did I compare a Max to a BX? Wonder why....? The video produced by KUBOTA compared a BX to a........ Mahindra MAX. I didn't do it you guys. I simply made a video refuting the lies by Kubota about the Mahindra Max. Break the video down, it leads with a misleading statement by Kubota and then a rebuttal by me for every scene. SCUT, CUT, tractor schmactor! These are similar sized machines made to do work in small spaces. The END!

Kubota only compared the BX to a Max because Mahindra does. Kubota said in their video the Max is a compact tractor. Maybe I should compare my L4240 to Mahindra 3616.
 

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