Kudos to Diamondpilot!

[Hay Dude]

As far as I know, this thread is still titled "Kudos to Diamondpilot" and many of the posts state positive things about Chris. I don't quite understand what "Hay Dude" gets out of being critical of a member that has contributed so much to TBN.

Contributed so much what? Pro Ford talk?
Critical? Aren't you being critical of me? Or is this hippocritical?

So this guy Chris gets a thread dedicated to him and about 1/2 way through it, I did see that someone else posted some not-so-perfect feedback, too. I think I have the right to express my opinion the same way he did. I notice his reply was unedited.
Just because I don't like who or what you like doesn't make me any better/worse than you. Even if I don't use perfect spelling.

Soundguy, thanks for your input. I have respect for you. We do many of the same things for a living. I get tired of having to defend or justify my intelligence based on mispelling a few words on these websites.
I've met a lot of people in my years. Logged millions of miles as a CDL trucker and farmer. I've owned at least 20 CDL sized trucks and dozens of smaller diesel trucks. I do feel I can contribute just as much as anyone, but going back to the person being lauded, I find they get overbearing to the point where you're reluctant to post anything contrary to what they say for fear you'll be attacked like I was for disagreeing that Ford vehicles can be very problematic (like mine) or more pathetically, mispelling a word.

 

[jejeosborne]

Contributed so much what? Pro Ford talk?
Critical? Aren't you being critical of me? Or is this hippocritical?

So this guy Chris gets a thread dedicated to him and about 1/2 way through it, I did see that someone else posted some not-so-perfect feedback, too. I think I have the right to express my opinion the same way he did. I notice his reply was unedited.
Just because I don't like who or what you like doesn't make me any better/worse than you. Even if I don't use perfect spelling.

Soundguy, thanks for your input. I have respect for you. We do many of the same things for a living. I get tired of having to defend or justify my intelligence based on mispelling a few words on these websites.
I've met a lot of people in my years. Logged millions of miles as a CDL trucker and farmer. I've owned at least 20 CDL sized trucks and dozens of smaller diesel trucks. I do feel I can contribute just as much as anyone, but going back to the person being lauded, I find they get overbearing to the point where you're reluctant to post anything contrary to what they say for fear you'll be attacked like I was for disagreeing that Ford vehicles can be very problematic (like mine) or more pathetically, mispelling a word.

I bet someone will start a thread titled "kudos to Hay Dude" when you reach the 11,000 post milestone but based on the rate for your two months as a member, it will take 68.5 years to accomplish. Good luck!

 

[Soundguy]

say for fear you'll be attacked like I was for disagreeing that Ford vehicles can be very problematic (like mine) or more pathetically, mispelling a word.

I can't speak for others, but will say that in my searches for trailer info and diesel truck info, chris has deffinately helped me out.

Sure he's plenty pro ford 9 so am I ),.. and at times.. anti GM ( so am I ).

as I said in another post.. most of us, at one time or another.. have bought something from some maker that is just shy of the legal definition of a lemon.. and there's no water, sugar and ice around to make up lemonade.

sadly.. it happens.. and that's why we get set against ( or for ) a specific maker. I've simply been burned by GM to many times to ever think positive about them.

Dodge and ford have been good to me.

I know ford has burned some on the 6.0,. with the cost of these machines.. if you get a diesel, ( any brand ).. and it develops a major issue that is not warranty covered.. it's going to be painfull and expensive. no doubt about it.

I've really got not much problem with someone relating an experience or venting time to time.. or even adding a story to a sig line stating their bad misfortune.

The spelling issue. A seperate one from diamond pilot or the ford / gm / whoever issue... that one torques me.

I usually find, in a discussion r argument.. those that resort to picking spelling nd grammar apart, are doing so because they can't compete fairly in the rest of the discussion... IMHO.. it's ALMOST an ad hominem or at least a red herring. a deflection.. trying to discredit an opponent not based onthe merrit of his point.. but due to a personal or technical flaw that does not otherwise change the nature of the point. politicians come to mind with that respect. If you can't discredit your opponents poont.. just sling some mud..

Off the soapbox now.. someone else's turn

Dp has helped me alot.. I can't indicate otherwise. just sayin.

next.

( I almost shudder posting a long one like this.. the text has long since scrolled off my screen.. probably full of typo's.. and I'm sure it will P/O some english major to no end... )

soundguy

 

[Soundguy]

say for fear you'll be attacked like I was for disagreeing that Ford vehicles can be very problematic (like mine) or more pathetically, mispelling a word.

I can't speak for others, but will say that in my searches for trailer info and diesel truck info, chris has deffinately helped me out.

Sure he's plenty pro ford 9 so am I ),.. and at times.. anti GM ( so am I ).

as I said in another post.. most of us, at one time or another.. have bought something from some maker that is just shy of the legal definition of a lemon.. and there's no water, sugar and ice around to make up lemonade.

sadly.. it happens.. and that's why we get set against ( or for ) a specific maker. I've simply been burned by GM to many times to ever think positive about them.

Dodge and ford have been good to me.

I know ford has burned some on the 6.0,. with the cost of these machines.. if you get a diesel, ( any brand ).. and it develops a major issue that is not warranty covered.. it's going to be painfull and expensive. no doubt about it.

I've really got not much problem with someone relating an experience or venting time to time.. or even adding a story to a sig line stating their bad misfortune.

The spelling issue. A seperate one from diamond pilot or the ford / gm / whoever issue... that one torques me.

I usually find, in a discussion r argument.. those that resort to picking spelling nd grammar apart, are doing so because they can't compete fairly in the rest of the discussion... IMHO.. it's ALMOST an ad hominem or at least a red herring. a deflection.. trying to discredit an opponent not based onthe merrit of his point.. but due to a personal or technical flaw that does not otherwise change the nature of the point. politicians come to mind with that respect. If you can't discredit your opponents poont.. just sling some mud..

Off the soapbox now.. someone else's turn

Dp has helped me alot.. I can't indicate otherwise. just sayin.

next.

( I almost shudder posting a long one like this.. the text has long since scrolled off my screen.. probably full of typo's.. and I'm sure it will P/O some english major to no end... )

soundguy

 

[Hay Dude]

I bet someone will start a thread titled "kudos to Hay Dude" when you reach the 11,000 post milestone but based on the rate for your two months as a member, it will take 68.5 years to accomplish. Good luck!

Yeah,,,, 11,000,,,, that's a lot of posts. I couldn't ever type that fast, nor have the time to sit around and do it. I'd have to be unemployed to accomplish a feat like that.
Diamonpilot aside-I'm sure he means well and tries to help, it's sad that we rate someone or something on quantity over quality.
As revered as he is on this website, I'd be foolish to question or insult him for fear of losing my posting privelages.

 

[Soundguy]

over quality.
.

Seriously? do you find DP's posts to lack quality of advice?

Everyone has some fluff posts.. nice pics, how ya doin,, what's fer dinner.. etc.. but when it comes down to real talk and specifics ... at least to me, he seems pretty qualified or experienced anyway.

 

[Hay Dude]

I can't speak for others, but will say that in my searches for trailer info and diesel truck info, chris has deffinately helped me out.

Sure he's plenty pro ford 9 so am I ),.. and at times.. anti GM ( so am I ).

as I said in another post.. most of us, at one time or another.. have bought something from some maker that is just shy of the legal definition of a lemon.. and there's no water, sugar and ice around to make up lemonade.

sadly.. it happens.. and that's why we get set against ( or for ) a specific maker. I've simply been burned by GM to many times to ever think positive about them.

Dodge and ford have been good to me.

I know ford has burned some on the 6.0,. with the cost of these machines.. if you get a diesel, ( any brand ).. and it develops a major issue that is not warranty covered.. it's going to be painfull and expensive. no doubt about it.

I've really got not much problem with someone relating an experience or venting time to time.. or even adding a story to a sig line stating their bad misfortune.

The spelling issue. A seperate one from diamond pilot or the ford / gm / whoever issue... that one torques me.

I usually find, in a discussion r argument.. those that resort to picking spelling nd grammar apart, are doing so because they can't compete fairly in the rest of the discussion... IMHO.. it's ALMOST an ad hominem or at least a red herring. a deflection.. trying to discredit an opponent not based onthe merrit of his point.. but due to a personal or technical flaw that does not otherwise change the nature of the point. politicians come to mind with that respect. If you can't discredit your opponents poont.. just sling some mud..

Off the soapbox now.. someone else's turn

Dp has helped me alot.. I can't indicate otherwise. just sayin.

next.

( I almost shudder posting a long one like this.. the text has long since scrolled off my screen.. probably full of typo's.. and I'm sure it will P/O some english major to no end... )

soundguy

You spelled definately wrong You used 2 "f''s. lol
Yep...I understand he's helped other members. Looks like at least 25 others have come to support his kudos thread.
You got burned by GM. I'm in the process of being burned by Ford. All brands of cars/trucks burn someone.
However, I still support my previous comments about Chris. To be fair, it goes on at other websites, too. There's always a member who is always logged on to a certain forum and kind of has the "bully pulpit" there (best analogy I have because of the presidential race). If anyone states something other to what he/she claims (I don't know if Chris is a man or woman, sorry) then they get discredited based on their low number of posts, or in this case, because they spelled a word wrong.
I have met a lot of people who can't spell very well that have more mechanical, truck, tractor knowledge than almost any member here.

Well said Soundguy. I have read your posts for years and respect your comments, logic, the way you handle yourself.

 

[Hay Dude]

Seriously? do you find DP's posts to lack quality of advice?

Everyone has some fluff posts.. nice pics, how ya doin,, what's fer dinner.. etc.. but when it comes down to real talk and specifics ... at least to me, he seems pretty qualified or experienced anyway.

No, it's more a bias towards a certain brand over another. I fell bad for the rest of the dudes & dudettes on the website that have to see their non-Ford rigs insulted.

I can tell you with 100% confidence I have logged more commercial truck hauling miles in 1-2 years than Chris ever has. My trailers, tractors, trucks are larger. I'm a farmer and ship hay all over the country in several trucks with apportioned tags. I also construct barns. That is not an insult to Chris, just a fact and I don't mean to belittle or denigrate Chris. I totally agree with him (i'm going to assume he's a he) on the "Obama Motors", but disagree that GM builds crap trucks or BMW builds crap cars. I don't and won't behave in an over bearing manner that probably keeps other points of view from being expressed here. It deprives others of learning from other "experts" because many, like myself, want to avoid conflict.
I can't tell you how many times I've wanted to step in and offer advice to other members here only to see others that tried to do that get "shouted down" by some of the more popular members here.
Then that same guy ends up buying a problematic truck, trailer, doing a proceedure incorrectly and much to my shagrin, I read about it later.
As I said Soundguy, I like you and 99% of the members here, but it's a few overbearing ones that I believe keep other valuable perspectives away.

 

[Soundguy]

well, everyone's entitled to an opinion.

I've been accused more than once of being a bit abrasive. Trying to work on that

each of us are going to have different likes and dislikes. many of those come out in conversation. I guess the trick is to sift thru the opinion to get to the facts and just go with it.

On the other hand.. sometimes you just find someone you can't work around, and conflict avoidance , to some degree comes into play.

Some things I fell like arguing baout.. some things I don't care to waste time to argue about. Time to time i do find a few that.. for whatever reason.. mine or his.. we just AREn'T gonna get along or play nice. In the old days.. I'd argue too much. now.. i try to save time and blood pressure for both of us..and sugest they stick me on ignore, and then i do the same. that way we don't see each other's psot.. and everyone is happier.

soundguy

 

[jejeosborne]

Yeah,,,, 11,000,,,, that's a lot of posts. I couldn't ever type that fast, nor have the time to sit around and do it. I'd have to be unemployed to accomplish a feat like that.
Diamonpilot aside-I'm sure he means well and tries to help, it's sad that we rate someone or something on quantity over quality.
As revered as he is on this website, I'd be foolish to question or insult him for fear of losing my posting privelages.

I believe most would feel the quality is there as well. You are still a newbie to this site and haven't learned that many on this site have developed friendships. Heck, you said you don't know if Chris is a man or woman yet you have formed such a strong opinion.

This website has matured into more than just a blanket forum like many in which people pop in an out monthly or only as needs arise. I have more personal life knowledge of certain members than I do of many family members from years of reading post . Many members even form get togethers and I was even offered room and board if my family ever needed a place to stay in California.

I feel, and some others may as well, that it is not appropriate to enter a thread that the OP intended as an act of appreciation and create conflict. Especially someone who doesn't even know the gender of the said person or the camaraderie that exists within this site.