LeadPoison
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Take a look at the Kubota M series. The base M models are ideally suited to your needs.
L2800/3400 and TC30 FEL Capabilities
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canoetrpr
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Used tractors in this area are not plentiful. I was not planning to spend anything close to the cost of a new L3400 until I found nothing in the used market. )</font>
I started off in the same boat and came to the same conclusion - to buy new. Of course since I signed on the dotted line I've seen some really nice deals come and go on larger L series tractors used for about the same money as I am paying for my L3400 but without the tax - private sale. The L3400 is going to be plenty tractor for what I'm going to do with it and so I don't regret it.
You might also want to look a bit further away - within 300 to 500 miles. Good deals do often come up from time to time.
If 4WD wasn't a necessity for you then I would, in your boat, be looking at an older - like late 60's, 70's JD machine of a larger size - in the 50 to 60 HP range. They don't have any gizmos but they seem to be nice reliable machines.
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Still in a quandary over the performance vs price of the L3400 vs TC30. )</font>
Definately consider which dealer is better also. I honestly don't think that the little extra lift will make the TC30 that much better but my experience is limited. All I know is that if I was regularly using a tractor to lift 1000 lb of weight or more, I'd want one that was a heck of a lot heavier than either of these and with a loader capacity that was a lot more than the max load I planned on lifting.
I don't know about the opinion more experienced folks might have on this but I feel better about a factory loader than an aftermarket one. Perhaps just my perception being a newbie - this is probably what Kubota wants me to think!
Good luck with your decision.
I started off in the same boat and came to the same conclusion - to buy new. Of course since I signed on the dotted line I've seen some really nice deals come and go on larger L series tractors used for about the same money as I am paying for my L3400 but without the tax - private sale. The L3400 is going to be plenty tractor for what I'm going to do with it and so I don't regret it.
You might also want to look a bit further away - within 300 to 500 miles. Good deals do often come up from time to time.
If 4WD wasn't a necessity for you then I would, in your boat, be looking at an older - like late 60's, 70's JD machine of a larger size - in the 50 to 60 HP range. They don't have any gizmos but they seem to be nice reliable machines.
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Still in a quandary over the performance vs price of the L3400 vs TC30. )</font>
Definately consider which dealer is better also. I honestly don't think that the little extra lift will make the TC30 that much better but my experience is limited. All I know is that if I was regularly using a tractor to lift 1000 lb of weight or more, I'd want one that was a heck of a lot heavier than either of these and with a loader capacity that was a lot more than the max load I planned on lifting.
I don't know about the opinion more experienced folks might have on this but I feel better about a factory loader than an aftermarket one. Perhaps just my perception being a newbie - this is probably what Kubota wants me to think!
Good luck with your decision.
wushaw
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Would the L2800 FEL not handle the lift or is the weight of the tractor the issue? )</font> <font color="blue"> FEL capabilities </font>
If I can use the 3PT to spear the rolls and pass on the double stack then we will be okay. <font color="blue"> This would work... My Box Blade is 830# and my L2800 has no problems handleing it even with the FEL bucket off, I haven't tried it with the whole FEL off the tractor..yet </font>
If I can use the 3PT to spear the rolls and pass on the double stack then we will be okay. <font color="blue"> This would work... My Box Blade is 830# and my L2800 has no problems handleing it even with the FEL bucket off, I haven't tried it with the whole FEL off the tractor..yet </font>
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tracseeker
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Thanks to all for the replies. I have scrapped the double stacking of hay bales as an objective and think the L3400 is the right one for me. If the 3PT can move the bales then we are good.
The extra HP in the PTO on the L3400 should let me run a 60HP gear box - 5 foot bush hog; that will handle anything I have for clearing.
Anyone buy the teeth option for the bucket on the FEL? My Dad said he added a welded support to the leading edge of his JD 755 loader for extra strength and said the $400 option for the teeth sounded like a good idea.
One more question... I have some low areas that hold water this time of year. The dealer stated AG tires are 4ply and the R4s are 6ply. The R4s are much wider and would be less likely to dig I would think. But the other folks on this site say the Ags will self clean better. Thoughts?
The extra HP in the PTO on the L3400 should let me run a 60HP gear box - 5 foot bush hog; that will handle anything I have for clearing.
Anyone buy the teeth option for the bucket on the FEL? My Dad said he added a welded support to the leading edge of his JD 755 loader for extra strength and said the $400 option for the teeth sounded like a good idea.
One more question... I have some low areas that hold water this time of year. The dealer stated AG tires are 4ply and the R4s are 6ply. The R4s are much wider and would be less likely to dig I would think. But the other folks on this site say the Ags will self clean better. Thoughts?
LAWALLSTRACTOR
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trackseeker,
If you can try to find a Mahindra tractor dealer and price a Mahindra 3510 tractor with a ML112 Loader. :::You may find the tractor in your price range. Weighing in at 3860 lbs, and a loader lift capacity of 1972 lbs it will handle all of your needs. You can check it out at mahindrausa.com. Good Luck tractor shopping.
Galen LaWall
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Batavia, NY
585-343-0770
If you can try to find a Mahindra tractor dealer and price a Mahindra 3510 tractor with a ML112 Loader. :::You may find the tractor in your price range. Weighing in at 3860 lbs, and a loader lift capacity of 1972 lbs it will handle all of your needs. You can check it out at mahindrausa.com. Good Luck tractor shopping.
Galen LaWall
Your Mahindra Tractor Dealer
Batavia, NY
585-343-0770
N80
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I have an L4400 and suggest that you give it a good look before going for the 3400. I'm just awed by what this little tractor can do.
As for the tires, the Ags cut the ground up pretty bad, but they pull really, really well in the mud. I've been clearing a long, wet hill side of 15-20' pines and the Ags really pull well and I've had all four tires nearly to the axles and it pulls out with the rear diff locked.
As for the tires, the Ags cut the ground up pretty bad, but they pull really, really well in the mud. I've been clearing a long, wet hill side of 15-20' pines and the Ags really pull well and I've had all four tires nearly to the axles and it pulls out with the rear diff locked.
canoetrpr
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You know, I REALLY wish Kubota offerred the L4400 with an HST.
I'm sure they would capture some sales that go elsewhere because they don't.
I'm sure they would capture some sales that go elsewhere because they don't.
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I recently got a 3ph bale spear, I have been moving what look to be 5x5 or 6x5 round bales with our L2350, a couple times it struggled to get the bales off the ground but once they are up it does fine.
I would guess the bales are 1500 pounds or a bit more, the L2350 has a 1650 pound 3ph lift capacity so I would say I am using all of it. The SMC loader on the front has a 1000 pound capacity( at full height ) , but has 2000 pounds of breakout force which seems to me to be the number that would apply to lifting a round bale and carrying it low to the ground.
I haven't gotten crazy and gotten a bale spear for the bucket yet ( and I doubt if I will, the 3ph method is doing what I need for now ) but I am sure the loader would pickup and move the same bales I am moving with the 3ph now.
I drive about a mile down the road to buy and get these bales and bring them home, no problems at all. I am sometimes amazed how well this little L series does things for me. I guess I should get a picture next time...haha.
I would guess the bales are 1500 pounds or a bit more, the L2350 has a 1650 pound 3ph lift capacity so I would say I am using all of it. The SMC loader on the front has a 1000 pound capacity( at full height ) , but has 2000 pounds of breakout force which seems to me to be the number that would apply to lifting a round bale and carrying it low to the ground.
I haven't gotten crazy and gotten a bale spear for the bucket yet ( and I doubt if I will, the 3ph method is doing what I need for now ) but I am sure the loader would pickup and move the same bales I am moving with the 3ph now.
I drive about a mile down the road to buy and get these bales and bring them home, no problems at all. I am sometimes amazed how well this little L series does things for me. I guess I should get a picture next time...haha.
