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[mike69440]

Wish I had the 4 in 1 AND my grapple.

4 in 1 dozers better and grabs and loads. I have to plan my work between grapple and bucket.

 

[witel]

I may just be shamed/convinced into getting a 4n1.

Anyone used a PHD on the end of a backhoe before? Pros? Cons?

Last week the snow-melt was creating enough mud at my home building site (on a slope) that I almost got my F350 stuck. Not fun sliding sideways down the hill with the family in the truck. Went out there again this morning while the ground was still frozen ... much better. Predicting a high of 5 on Friday and a low of -2 ... and, at this very moment, it's snowing again.

 

[CurlyDave]

I may just be shamed/convinced into getting a 4n1.

I don't think you will regret this at all. I use mine all the time on my 110, and it is much more useful than a standard loader bucket.

Anyone used a PHD on the end of a backhoe before? Pros? Cons?

I haven't used one, but am in the same position as you, in that I am looking for a hydraulic auger for my TLB. The ground is so hard in my area that I really need down presure, and lots of it. A year ago it took my neighbor all day to drill one 9" post hole with a 3 point PHD.

I am thinking more along the lines of something that mounts on the front of the machine rather than the backhoe. Like this one General Equipment DIG-R-TACH 671-753 Earth Auger Attachment or one of these General Equipment DIG-R-TACH 471 and 553 Earth Auger Attachment

The main reason is that I find it is many times easier to use an implement on the front of the machine rather than on the back. And, my 110 has a creeper switch which makes maneuvering from the backhoe seat much easier than your L39 will.

I don't know if this would fit an L39, but I would look into it. (The L39 has a skid steer like front bucket attachment, the 110 has a skid steer front attachment.)

A PHD is something where you want to be able to quickly drive to the exact spot you will use it, set up, and move to the next post hole. I can take quite a bit of time to set up to use the BH, but a PHD should be a lot easier.

 

[bandit67]

I've used a skid steer with PHD, and it is really nice. I'm not so sure a quick-attach PHD on the FEL of a tractor would be as easy to work with - you can get to the hole quickly, but making the minor adjustments to get the auger into position would be much more difficult with a tractor than a skid steer. However, although it would take a little extra time to get TO the location of the hole using a backhoe mounted PHD, it would be much easier to line the auger up exactly where you want it to go, and make the adjustments as you drill down to keep the holes straight. You're much better able to see the hole from the backhoe seat than from the tractor seat using an FEL mounted PHD.

Not sure if the L39 has the forward/reverse drive lever like the JD110 (I love that feature), but if it does, it's pretty easy to drive the machine around from the backhoe operator's seat, which would make digging with the backhoe mounted auger even easier.

 

[MarkV]

Regarding the rubber stabilizer pads ... Educate me. Are the rubber pads (~$70) only intended and useful on pavement? I'd be doing very little pavement work along the road in front of the property and possibly the future-drive to the house.

Witel the rubber inserts for the stabilizers are for working on concrete or other finish surfaces to prevent damage. The stock stabilizer feet are reversible with a flat side, which the rubber inserts would bolt to, and a more aggressive side to dig in and hold you better in dirt. Save the money if you don’t plan on working on concrete.

I could be wrong but I get the impression that you feel the extra weight of wheel weights or loaded tires must be changed each time you remove the backhoe. That hasn’t been my experience. The Kubota manual will tell you to add tire ballast when the backhoe is removed and to remove the ballast when your reinstall the backhoe. Well that is just ridiculous. I am convinced it has to do with liabilities and nothing to do with real world use of the tractor. The same is said about the B21 and my tires have been loaded for 6 years with and without the backhoe. No problems. I do feel that the balance of the L39 does require extra weight without the backhoe installed.

I lust over a 4in1 bucket and will have one some day. As a point of reference, I was quoted $3500 plus shipping for a 68” 4in1 bucket and the front hydraulic kit from WR Long.

MarkV

 

[MarkV]

And, my 110 has a creeper switch which makes maneuvering from the backhoe seat much easier than your L39 will.

Dave, I thought that creeper switch on the 110 was the coolest thing since sliced bread when I first saw it. There is a work around on the L39 that will allow you to do essentially the same thing. If you were to disable the safety switch that prevents reversing the seat while in gear, the gear selector can be moved from neutral to 1st at an idle to creep much like the 110. Not that I would tell anyone to zip tie that switch closed.

MarkV

 

[dlinde31]

Hello Everyone,

Just found this forum, and it seems that there are alot of creative people out there.

I have a Kubota L39. I bought it as just the Tractor/Loader. No need for the backhoe, but I wanted the high capacity of the loader.

One problem, I cannot find any REAR WHEEL WEIGHTS. Any solutions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Dan

 

[dfkrug]

Anyone used a PHD on the end of a backhoe before? Pros? Cons?

I have a Worksaver 714H adapted to my Prairie Dog hoe. This unit
comes with all the hardware to bolt it up to the side of a FEL bkt. I
fabbed the bracket to mount it to my b/h dipper stick. Do a search
for the many good discussions of Hyd PHDs on CUTs.

Downside to hyd vs. PTO 3-pt PHDs? Only the price, as far as I
can tell from having both. $1500 for the hyd, and $500 for a medium
duty 3-pt PTO PHD. They use the same augers.

Note that if you operate a hyd PHD off your loader bkt, you have 2 less
ranges of motion than you have with a hoe mounted unit. The hoe
mounted unit has main boom up/down, dipper stick fwd/back, and
swing left/rt. That assumes you use the FEL curl circuit for the hyd
motor.

 

[Lynkage]

WiTel

I would check with a Gentleman named Bob at Cheyenne kubota. That is where I bought my L48. You could also tell him you heard about him from Shane Firestack (me). He and his wife own the place and you can also avoid a lot of taxes.
I live in Denver and as you know the trip is short. Give him a call.
Shane

Also I would look for a cab option w/heater to keep you warm when you use your tractor for snow removal!!

Look what I found!!
https://www.cabdepot.com/new/view_p...1927S&oem_mfg=Kubota&mach_type=Loader/Backhoe

 

[mike69440]

Hello Everyone,

Just found this forum, and it seems that there are alot of creative people out there.

I have a Kubota L39. I bought it as just the Tractor/Loader. No need for the backhoe, but I wanted the high capacity of the loader.

One problem, I cannot find any REAR WHEEL WEIGHTS. Any solutions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Dan

Dan,

Now you owe me, get me that loader tube dimension, please.
My aim is to have an 8000 LB L-39

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...g/92634-l39-wheel-weights-spacers-chains.html

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-owning-operating/91785-anyone-load-rear-tires-their.html

Also Zip tie is not the way to go on the safety Switch. I use a toggle latch made from a coat hanger and also a bypass toggle switch. I leave both engaged so that it is a conscious effort to defeat the factory safeties for certain types of work.