Blackgreyhounds
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Have you thought about getting a separate zero turn mower? Then you could go with R1's? Just some ideas from a newbie. I'm strongly considering the L3901 too.
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Ivan49
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To me this would defeat the purpose of buying a tractor. A zero turn is expensive plus the cost of the tractor.
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A 3-Pt. mounted Cultipacker is as maneuverable as the tractor. Cultipacker makes a short, compact counterbalance to the FEL.
When 3-Pt. mounted, a significant part of the Cultipacker's weight is transferred to the front and rear wheels of the tractor, decreasing Cultipacker weight bearing directly on the ground and seeds.
A towed Cultipacker is more efficient at packing and flattening, because 100% of the Cultipacker weight bears on the ground and seeds. However, a towed Cultipacker is difficult/impossible to maneuver in food plot work.
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Ivan49
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That is kind of what I thought but was not sure. Thanks for the info
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totouchantler
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Ivan I have a four foot roller made of high strength plastic, the name of the company is lost on me at the moment. I can pick it up by myself and put it in the back of my truck when its empty of water. Very manuverable. We have planted many acres with it. I think its 600lbs when filled with water.
Ivan49
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I have a 6 foot horseone drawn changed so I can pull it with a tractor and you would not even budge one end if you tried to pick it up. I have 120 acres and live here so I have no need to haul it. I bought my Kubota last Sept and after a lot of thought and driving eac on the lot I went with gear shift. My dealer asked what I was using it for and he told me either would work but having spent over 60 year s on a gear shift tractor that is what I went with
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totouchantler
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Jeff..... I'm looking at a frontier and a landpride disc set. do I want to just take the total mass of the implement and divide it by the amount of pans to find the proper per disc bearing weight? When I do that it looks as if the landpride unit is undersized and the frontier is just about right. Is that the right way to think about it. Agian.. I'm looking to pull this with my soon to be purchased L3901.
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~~Yes.
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totouchantler
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Jeff.... Most of the Howse discs i have looked at on their site cant break 35 lbs per pan? This isn't good right? What gives?
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Disc Harrows are among the most common of implements. There are a large number of venders to shop.
There are hundreds of options among venders because buyers have hundreds of perceived needs.
Howse makes good 'hobby-farm' quality Disc Harrows at competitive prices. If looking at Howse, consider their Disc Harrows with 20" pans.
For twice the money, Monroe Tufline makes better quality Disc Harrows. For three times the money, look at Brown Manufacturing.
Monroe Tufline has produced some Disc Harrows for Deere/Frontier for years.
Nothing wrong with a used Disc Harrow in reasonable condition.
There are hundreds of options among venders because buyers have hundreds of perceived needs.
Howse makes good 'hobby-farm' quality Disc Harrows at competitive prices. If looking at Howse, consider their Disc Harrows with 20" pans.
For twice the money, Monroe Tufline makes better quality Disc Harrows. For three times the money, look at Brown Manufacturing.
Monroe Tufline has produced some Disc Harrows for Deere/Frontier for years.
Nothing wrong with a used Disc Harrow in reasonable condition.
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totouchantler
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Just confused because it was suggested that you go no less than 40 lbs a pan..... so why would these manufactures be building units less than that? I know I'm a hobby plotter.....but I still require and demand the implement to work as designed. I guess I'll just try to get close to to the 40 lb recommendation you give... As always thanks.
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Not close to forty pounds, forty pounds minimum. Weight is your friend in ground contact work.
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My everything attachments disks are at 46# per FWIW.
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But only 7-1/2" spacing between pans. Great for smoothing a field after it has been plowed.
Will not cut food plots very well. Space between pans gets shut down before pan angles can be adjusted aggressively.
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Depends on the soil. This was previously planted pine that had been logged four years prior. Lots of blackberry/grass/shrubs/knee high pines. Dug stumps with the BH and this is after two passes with the disks. Did have to grapple some root systems but other than that it was all the disks.
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totouchantler
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Okay. So stay away from Howse then? I did read your post from top to end. Can you point me to a disc that would be sufficient to break previously planted food plot acreage on an annual basis. The soils we food plot in are very loose as we plant varieties that lessen compaction (bulbs, radishes, turnips, etc.). We do rotate out our bulbs and plant grains exclusively and sometimes screen with row crops like RR corn and beans. Thanks.
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You have the best information I can provide for selecting a Disc Harrow for your conditions.
For hobby-farm type use the brand is not very important. Weight is.
There are fifty Disc Harrow brands that will meet your needs.
Plants in China, India and Brazil surely sell constituents (with varying specifications) to multiple U.S.A. brands.
No, I will not recommend a brand.
For hobby-farm type use the brand is not very important. Weight is.
There are fifty Disc Harrow brands that will meet your needs.
Plants in China, India and Brazil surely sell constituents (with varying specifications) to multiple U.S.A. brands.
No, I will not recommend a brand.
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totouchantler
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Hi Jeff. I completely respect and honor your choice not to recommend a brand. I want to be clear. I understand its not the brand its the weight. That's why I'm trying to find a company or two or fifty as you indicate that would meet your weight recommendations per pan. When someone mentioned Anthing attachments you quickly chimed in about spacing being too close. At this point I would want the disc more for breaking plots that were previously planted the year before. Since I like to minimum till, I would rarely use the disc set to smooth furrows. So far Howse and Landpride strikeout (at least for weight). Ill look at anything and am not brand loyal to a fault. Its pretty overwhelming.... I'm just looking for a northstar here.... Again I commend that you don't want to promote 1 company.
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