L4610 Vs. 4700

[JATO_RaT]

By the way Richard, here are some interesting tidbits:

HST sound level, 1200 to 1500 RPM, brake on, high range
JD 105 db
L4610 90 db

Power steering, loader with 800 kg or 1764 lbs, stationary

L4610 33 degs both L/R
JD 10 deg both L/R

Loader lift capacity to max height at pivot:
L4610 2470lbs
JD 2325lbs

Loader cycle time 2000 RPM, raise, dump, lower, rollback

L4610 38 sec.
JD 53 sec.

Drawbar load:

L4610 1430lbs
JD 1100lbs

3pt hitch lift capacity 24" behind lift point

L4610 2310lbs
JD 2500lbs

They have lots of data on the comparisions between these tractors. I would say the biggest advantage is the HST, after that its pretty minor stuff with perhaps the cycle times of the loader. JD has more hydraulic pump capacity but apparently does not utilize it for loader use as well.

 

[cowboydoc]

Rat,
Did he say how much of a rebate they would be offering? I think both hillbilly and myself may be interested if it's substantial. They had sent out a $900 rebate. Did he say if it was going to be bigger than that? I'm in warranty to March of 2002.

 

[HunterdonPaul]

The thing that really bothers me about the Kubota L's shouldn't (but it does). I really dislike the quality of the step to board the tractor. The step is made of very thin and insubstantial metal while the Deere's step is really rugged. Any comments here?

I realize that this is probably my problem, not Kubota's. Just a little input -

Regards

 

[JATO_RaT]

The good thing is that when you ineviatably bury the tractor, the step bends without taking the deck with it. Also, the entire deck, fenders, etc. on the Kubota have complete ISO mounting. Its all rubber isolated to help eliminate vibration and noise. It feels like its floating sometimes especially when compared to my 74 International which has a step/platform that must weigh 50 pounds.

As far as the rebate, I don't know what it is since when he mentioned it I kinda tuned out since I don't have anything anywheres near a warranty. He said they really want to get people to switch to the new series. Apparently the warranty claims have been pretty tough on them, he's a dealer and said the biggest problem he sees repeatedly was the aluminum shifting forks inside the transmission which require splitting the tractor. I don't know if that was HST, or gear drives.

 

[richh]

You really owe it to your self to spend some TIME on a HST if you can. Rent one for a weekend or a day and learn to use it! You will not belive the diff. by the end of the day you will never want a GST or any thing else with a cluch, well maybe a covett{simle} Rat speaks the truth, after spending weeks on this board and getting all of the advise one can get here I bought a 4610 GST, had it for a week and sent it back and got a HST, now have 120 hr. on it and love it. Any one that dose not like a HST needs more seat time!!!!!!
Rich

 

[PLOWER]

Rich,
I have a Hst right now on my JD4100, I also use to have one on my Lawn tractor. I don't need one any more its, not that I don't like it, it that I dont need it. I'm sure Cowboydoc can tell you, you don't always need a HST. Cliff

I'm moving up to a 5205!

 

[gordon]

I'm curious plower as to why you don't want an hst on the new tractor????

The step on my Kubota I smashed with a log. It kicked up from under the tire and bent it forward bad. The nice thing was that it was the weakest link. Just bent it back and all is well.

From what Hoss has posted the petals are set up better on the Deere. So you take it from there. All three of the top brands are all real close so anything you end up with should be a good deal. I'll stick with my kubota. More than happy after a hundred hours on the new one.

Gordon

 

[PLOWER]

The reason why I don't want a HST, is because I almost only have to drive in a strait line now mowing, not much loader work at my new place. So i don't want to spend the extra $$$$ for some thing not needed.

I'm moving up to a 5205!

 

[gordon]

Ok, let me bug you one last time. How much price difference are we talking about here on the john deeres? Roughly that is.

I think your going to miss the hst after having one. Time will tell on that one. But if you don't need it I guess you don't need it. So what do you think the final verdict is on the tractor and trans choice?

Thanks
Gordon

 

[PLOWER]

Gordon,
Im not sure how much it is on a Kubota, but I know its 1,300 more on a JD4700, that i'm cosidering. I am also considering the 5205 and that does not have the HST option. Cliff

I'm moving up to a 5205!