L4701 vx. MX4800

[coolbrze]

What are the main differences in these two tractors? Which loaders can they handle?

 

[goeduck]

What are the main differences in these two tractors? Which loaders can they handle?

MXs are typically more agriculture based and Ls more utility-homeowner based however that line is blurred. I looked at Tractordata.com and they are very close. The MX is a little larger and heavier of course. The MX takes the LA1065 and the L takes the LA765 so the MX can lift about 600 lbs more

TractorData.com Kubota L471 tractor attachments information
TractorData.com Kubota MX48 tractor attachments information

 

[LD1]

Mx weighs a tad more, and riding on bigger tires....and can lift more.

Also has a cat I/II hitch. Which means is basically a cat II....but can close up small enough to hitch cat I stuff with proper bushings. And it also has telescoping lower ends.

 

[bdhsfz6]

Don't forget to consider the implements you plan to use. If you want to equip the tractor with R4 industrial tires, be aware that the width of the MX4800 is around 73". This could be a factor for existing or future implements with a 72" width. The width of the L4701 with R4's is around 69".

If you like the slightly smaller and lighter L4701 frame but are concerned about FEL capacity, you might consider the more expensive Grand L4760. That tractor uses the LA1055 FEL which is similar in spec to the MX4800's LA1065 FEL. I'm spending your money here but the L4760 also comes with a host of features you might find useful if you spend a lot of time on the tractor.

 

[LD1]

Another small consideration is your elevation? Would you benefit from a turbo? Look at the MX5800

 

[jeff9366]

Mx weighs a tad more, and riding on bigger tires....and can lift more.

Also has a cat I/II hitch. Which means is basically a cat II....but can close up small enough to hitch cat I stuff with proper bushings. MX4800 has telescoping lower ends.

MX4800 has turnbuckle Lower Link stabilizers.
MX5200 and MX5800 have telescoping Lower Link stabilizers standard.
Telescoping Lower Link stabilizers could be ordered as an option for MX4800.

I was inspecting MX tractors at my six mile distant Kubota dealer minutes ago.


I SPECULATE L4701 and MX4800/5200/5800 are assembled on the same chassis. Larger wheels on MX4800 accounts for most of the weight increase, kit the balance. My Kubota dealer keeps numerous MX tractors in inventory. Has never had a L4701, or L4701 predecessor model in inventory in five years, so I have not been able to trial my speculation.

Tractor models are produced in low volume. Manufacturers constantly attempt to maximize common components for scale in purchasing and production.



Sometimes the objective of marketing is to illuminate, sometimes to obfuscate.

 

[jeff9366]

Which loaders can they handle?

Pull up Kubota's web site and research with your own eyes.

 

[majorwager]

Jeff,
SPECULATION that an L series and MX use the same chassis is debunked by a video published by Messick's and readily viewable on U Tube.
The point regarding overall rear R-4 width is valid, My MX is 74" wide and that DOES impact the use of some six ft attachments/buckets.
Exercise care with loader lift capacity anticipation: My tires are not loaded, no wheel weights. Prefer this setup because of extensive mowing in improved landscape surfaces, also refered to as lawns. During a wet spring, and even summer rains, tires can create "tracks". Point is thus. My loader is rated around 2400 lbs at the pivot pins. But my 550 lb snow pusher will unsettle the rear end. There is too much expectation for lifting capacities from these compact tractors. With appropriate ballast, a single ton of weight seems a reasonable limit in a static position. Traveling with that weight at height is irresponsible. Websites and specifications are merely a guide tempered by practical applications and limits.

 

[jeff9366]

Jeff,
SPECULATION that an L series and MX use the same chassis is debunked by a video published by Messick's and readily viewable on U Tube.

I searched U-tube with words "Messicks" & "Kubota", then viewed every video that seemed germane. I found nothing to debunk or refute my SPECULATION about shared chassis common to L4701 and MX series.
I may be wrong. I am speculating.



I note that my L3560 with R4 tires is 62" outside-to-outside tire width today.

Rear tread widths, a center-to-center measure, on Grand Ls are adjustable. My L3560 is adjustable from 47.2" to 57.7" tread width according the Operator's Manual before me. Four increments for R1/ag tires and three increments for R4/industrial tires.

 

[majorwager]

Kubota Grand L Series VS. Kubota MX Series - YouTube Messicks Video
Jeff,
Actually your term chassis is a misnomer. Not aware of any tractors, sub-100 hp, that employ a chassis in the classic definition. The tractor structure is a series of bolted components that support a front and rear axle. There is NO outright frame as would be the case with a Deere 6000 series tractor as an example or an automotive product. So the engine, transmission and rear axle/housing assembly differ from tractor to tractor, however there can be some similarity in said components, yet there is no commonality known as a chassis.

As for tread widths, granted they are adjustable through the orientation of the wheel, given the tire size and classification uniformity. I do question the weight of your tractor? Curious if you include a backhoe attachment? Open station?

 

[Turbys_1700]

If you need higher FEL capacity and want adjustable lower links standard get the MX. Both are great tractors and similar in size. I looked hard at the MX two years ago.

 

[jeff9366]

I watched that video. Nothing on the L4701.

I continue to SPECULATE the L4060/4760/5060/5460/6060, the MX series and probably the L4701 use one chassis/frame. The Three Point Hitch, which Neal dwells on in Messick's video, is just 'kit'. The L4060/4760/5060/5460/6060 and MX series share the same engine block and perhaps other engine components.

Sometimes the objective of marketing is to illuminate, sometimes to obfuscate. Videos no exception.
I was in marketing for 37 years.

Perhaps a contributor owning both an L4701 and an MX will illuminate.

 

[majorwager]

Jeff, based on your deductions, your are still enveloped in marketing, a profession more akin to carnaval antics while devoid of the facts. The L series employes an entirely different rear axle housing/assembly, derived from the M series. There are no frames/chassis incorporated in compact tractors. The Messick's video, produced by a knowledgeable and respected kubota dealer, clearly disputes your premise. A position that evolves w/ each subsequent post. Some folks just thrive on argument, can't reason w/ the unreasonable.

Continuation is pointless, readers will simply agree with Messick's video conclusions or form their own opinion.

 

[LD1]

No dog in the fight either way......

What is different between an MX rear vs L4701 rear vs larger grandL rear?

 

[jeff9366]

A position that evolves w/ each subsequent post. Some folks just thrive on argument, can't reason w/ the unreasonable.

My SPECULATION about shared components has been opined on T-B-N for years. Nothing new, nothing evolving about my SPECULATIONS except additional SPECULATION, inspired by this thread, that L4701 may share frame/chassis with other Kubota models.

I do not own any Kubota stock. I have no involvement with any Kubota dealer, other than as a customer. I own a Kubota L3560, which does not share frame/chassis nor engine block with L4060/4760/5060/5460/6060 nor MX.

I am not making claims, I am SPECULATING.

The strength of T-B-N is in the diversity of thought provoking opinions expressed. The OP will decide what information is valuable to the OP.

 

[Oldoak]

No dog in this fight either, however, since this thread has turned argumentative........... I always believe false or misleading information is worse than no information at all, not matter what the subject matter. Opinions and speculation is just that, not necessarily factual.

Who is right or wrong, I wouldn't know, other than Messick's very informative video, which I would consider the higher authority on Kubota tractors.

 

[majorwager]

Oldoak, your comment is appreciated. Generally believe, as you apparently do, Messick's is an authoritative and reputable source for valid information. Each of us have opinions to share, some helpful, some not so much. Deliberate speculation designed to deceive and or mislead, without basis in fact, and the intrinsic value of said speculation, is summarily described in you post..

 

[goeduck]

No dog in the fight either but when MXs first came out I thought the were a hybrid between an L front and an M rear. Hence Mcross or MX. See attached link at minute 7:14

Kubota Grand L Series VS. Kubota MX Series - YouTube

 

[Newby first timer]

First off
I have never owned a Tractor
I was looking for a Tractor for more Utility work and not a Giant Lawn Mower.
In fact No Lawn Mowing at all.
I need a good Backhoe and a versatile front bucket that will lift what ever ( do not now specifics just anything that comes up)

I talked to my local dealer and the Sale Lady Michelle was very knowledgeable about what she was selling.

I asked her about the L4701 and the MX4800 that she had on the lot.
Again my prime objective is Utility use.
she explained a little of the differences between the models and I chose the MX4800
Specs.
L4701
Basic Wt. no extra's 3307
Bucket Cap. at Pivot 1684Lbs.
Backhoe BH92 same as the MX
MX4800
Basic Wt.3729
Bucket Cap. at Pivot2275
Backhoe BH92 same as L4701

I ordered the MX4800 and 2 weeks later I Upgraded my order to the MX5800
with a 20% power upgrade from 49.3 HP to 61.4. and a 20% power upgrade at the PTO from 39 HP to 50.2
That upgrade cost me $2000.
Michelle made it happen

For me I wanted the extra Wt. and I wanted the extra power over the L4701.

 

[LD1]

MX4800 vs MX5800 for only $2k more......thats a no brainer to me. I figured the cost difference would be greater