Land Pride grading scraper

[elliottsmith]

Hi crazyal,
You've got about twice the horsepower on your Kubota that my old 8N has but like a said above I do sometimes pull a 6' finish mower with the 8N. Although I love the 8N, I am considering upgrading to something with a little more hp in the near future. Maybe something like Ford 2000 or similar. Kinda hard for me to justify the expense of a new tractor when all I use it for is to grade my half mile driveway a few times a year and mowing about 2 acres. But everytime I go to the dealer and see all those new tractors I guarantee Ima lickin my chops hahaha. The 4' won't be wide enough to cover my tracks whether I upgrade or not but the driveway will always be 8' - 10' so I'm figuring a pass in each direction will do it and hopefully put a little crown in the middle. Of course I'll prolly have to use my back blade to pull from the sides to get the crown since my understanding is that even with the angled blades the grader scraper isn't too good at making the crown, mostly just makes everything flat from what I've heard.

Unless you can get a good deal ordering a smaller LP scraper I would get the 6' model. When I was looking I couldn't find a LP or Woods scraper, even without the rippers, for the price of the Befco. I pull a 6' Befco behind my Kubota 4240 without a problem at all. Traction is the only problem I ever have and that's caused by driving over the loosened gravel while trying to pull gravel back up a steep driveway. Simply raising the 3pt just a little bit reduces the bite and how hard it pulls.

One thing I did is made a second set of holes for the frame the blades above the factory holes. This allows me to raise the blades on my Befco higher than the side skids. I think the LP can do it from the factory. This also reduces how much the scraper will pull on the tractor. Will you be getting a newer tractor in the future? If so will the 48" be too small?

 

[crazyal]

I've never used a 8N but I thought I've read posts about 8N tractors pulling a 2 bottom plow. My 4240 may pull a smaller 3 bottom plow but I think it would be at it's limit. Based on that I would think that your 8N would pull a 6' grading scrapper. The nice thing about the adjustable blade models is you can easily adjust how hard they pull. Hopefully someone with more expertise with an 8N can chime in.

The nice thing about a 6' scrapper is it'll right about the perfect width for a driveway. Most are about 10' to 12' wide so it'll give you just enough overlap to make a pass down then back. I'll often spend time using the rippers to break up the hard packed gravel and then I adjust the side link length to pull the gravel to the center of the road for a crown. I'm sure I could have gone with a 7' or even an 8' scrapper but I didn't think it would have sped things up at all.

 

[browning1]

I just bought a cammond 7ft industrial grading scraper myself to grade my 500ft slag driveway. My tc40 new holland pulls it with no problems. My only problem is two days after grading my driveway still has dips in it. im just hoping its were the ground is settling because it was woods just two years ago.

 

[elliottsmith]

browning,
Congrats on the new scraper. That thing is a monster, 800 lb+. Would be a strain for my old 8N just to pick it up haha. Plus the 8N gets real light in the front end with a heavy load on the back, especially pulling uphill. I like the TC40 also. Nice tractor. I finally ordered my grader scraper yesterday, a LP GS1560. Wanted the 6', felt the 4' would be better for the 8N so compromised with the 5'. Prolly should have stuck with the 4' but I have a 5' box blade the 8N pulls well and hopefully it'll do as good with the 5' GS. Been a lot of rain and snow in Carolina lately and my drive is gonna need some work for sure. Smitty

I just bought a cammond 7ft industrial grading scraper myself to grade my 500ft slag driveway. My tc40 new holland pulls it with no problems. My only problem is two days after grading my driveway still has dips in it. im just hoping its were the ground is settling because it was woods just two years ago.

 

[RDrancher]

I just bought a cammond 7ft industrial grading scraper myself to grade my 500ft slag driveway. My tc40 new holland pulls it with no problems. My only problem is two days after grading my driveway still has dips in it. im just hoping its were the ground is settling because it was woods just two years ago.

Some here may make the grading scraper sound like a magic drag-to-perfection attachment. It's not. The length of it makes grading easier, but you still have to manipulate it to make it work.

 

[browning1]

Some here may make the grading scraper sound like a magic drag-to-perfection attachment. It's not. The length of it makes grading easier, but you still have to manipulate it to make it work.

yea i figured that. I just have to use it more to get use to it.

 

[crazyal]

I use the ripping shanks to break up the gravel. It helps when trying to remove potholes and leveling a drive that hasn't had work done to it lately.

 

[94BULLITT]

Hi crazyal,
You've got about twice the horsepower on your Kubota that my old 8N has but like a said above I do sometimes pull a 6' finish mower with the 8N. Although I love the 8N, I am considering upgrading to something with a little more hp in the near future. Maybe something like Ford 2000 or similar. Kinda hard for me to justify the expense of a new tractor when all I use it for is to grade my half mile driveway a few times a year and mowing about 2 acres. But everytime I go to the dealer and see all those new tractors I guarantee Ima lickin my chops hahaha. The 4' won't be wide enough to cover my tracks whether I upgrade or not but the driveway will always be 8' - 10' so I'm figuring a pass in each direction will do it and hopefully put a little crown in the middle. Of course I'll prolly have to use my back blade to pull from the sides to get the crown since my understanding is that even with the angled blades the grader scraper isn't too good at making the crown, mostly just makes everything flat from what I've heard.

If you are considering getting a 2000 in the near future I would go with a 6' then.

 

[ultrarunner]

Does anybody have experience with either of these?:

DURA-GRADER

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Here's the Road Boss site: Home | Road Boss Grader

Here's the GradeMaster site: GradeMaster Grader Blades

Here's a related thread in the archives:

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/120705-road-maintenance-tuffline-v-grademaster.html

Thanks Tom for posting the links!

 

[DianneInVA]

Any advice on using a Kabota B2620 for a RB 1560 to blade a fairly level drive (its in good condition now; but I've only lived here 3 months.) Thanks

 

[DutchHenryBrown]

Any advice on using a Kabota B2620 for a RB 1560 to blade a fairly level drive (its in good condition now; but I've only lived here 3 months.) Thanks

:welcome: To TBN. :thumbsup:

 

[Reg]

Any advice on using a Kabota B2620 for a RB 1560 to blade a fairly level drive (its in good condition now; but I've only lived here 3 months.) Thanks

"Advice" ?
Yes, don't waste your time.
Likely WAY too light, which means the wheels will spin (if it doesn't stall) as soon as the blade bites.
Then you will have those nice little scollops to fill, back drag those out with the bucket.

 

[DianneInVA]

LOL at my missunderstanding. What is too light: the tractor or the blade. What are scallops?
...a nd wnat bucket
Time, I have, its money that I want to use wisely...and labor (mine) . But maybe this forum is too advanced for me .Thanks for the input.Dianne

 

[MtnViewRanch]

LOL at my missunderstanding. What is too light: the tractor or the blade. What are scallops?
...a nd wnat bucket
Time, I have, its money that I want to use wisely...and labor (mine) . But maybe this forum is too advanced for me .Thanks for the input.Dianne

I think that the scallops mentioned would also be called washboard. So a lot of short little rounded topped bumps.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The tractor is to light to handle a rear blade (not the RB1560) that is heavy enough to get the job done properly and easy. Unless a person has the right equipment and is good at using said equipment, things often just get worse.

It sounds to me that you need one of these to maintain your road. Is the GS1560 what you had in mind and not the RB1560? I'm thinking that the GS1548 would be the right size for you.

JMO.

 

[Reg]

LOL at my missunderstanding. What is too light: the tractor or the blade. What are scallops?
...a nd wnat bucket
Time, I have, its money that I want to use wisely...and labor (mine) . But maybe this forum is too advanced for me .Thanks for the input.Dianne

The tractorette is WAY too light.
I can't see using a blade on ANYTHING weighing under say 3 tons and even then it would be a struggle if the driveway is compacted (likely where the tires tracks actually ARE).

Blades take some PULL and for that the pull'er needs to its get force to the ground ("Engage with"), for that it needs WEIGHT on the driving wheels, etc.

A landscape rake on gravel ? Yes, as long as you don't build up a LOT in front of it.

Scallops ? Maybe I meant Scollops ? Nahh, one of those is sea food and right now I'm too tired to know which.
The scooped out mess that spinning tires leave - THOSE divots (-:

Bucket as in Front end loader bucket... If you don't have one then your B2620 is even lighter and you are missing one of the easiest ways to smooth things out.

Back dragging with a bucket can save a LOT of time for sure and it is a quick and easy skill to learn - hardly a "skill" though.

 

[HappyOne]

I have been considering a GS and now wonder if I should just use my 6' Woods Power Rake to maintain my 800 ft of driveway. I always felt it was for smoothing lots and yards. My drive gets hard packed. Since my Power Rake is basically new looking, I've ben reluctant to use it for gravel. I never gave using it for my drive a thought until I saw a post here. Am I nuts for even considering a GS?

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I have been considering a GS and now wonder if I should just use my 6' Woods Power Rake to maintain my 800 ft of driveway. I always felt it was for smoothing lots and yards. My drive gets hard packed. Since my Power Rake is basically new looking, I've ben reluctant to use it for gravel. I never gave using it for my drive a thought until I saw a post here. Am I nuts for even considering a GS?

Use what you have, if it works good and doesn't take forever, then you're all set. If not, then get the GS. I personally would not be without my GS (land plane grading blade), but different implements work differently with different conditions.

Good luck.

 

[Stephenpace]

I think that the scallops mentioned would also be called washboard. So a lot of short little rounded topped bumps.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The tractor is to light to handle a rear blade (not the RB1560) that is heavy enough to get the job done properly and easy. Unless a person has the right equipment and is good at using said equipment, things often just get worse.

It sounds to me that you need one of these to maintain your road. Is the GS1560 what you had in mind and not the RB1560? I'm thinking that the GS1548 would be the right size for you.

JMO.

I'm with MtnViewRanch. My 2320 does fine with a 54 inch box scraper for gravel driveway work. Sometimes need to take a smaller bite, but will get the job done. I'd guess the 48 inch grading scraper he linked to would be even easier to pull and way easier to use and get good results with than a box scraper. A rear blade would require much more practice and finesse.

Working a day after it rains (I'm in the desert so YMMV) makes things easier as the hardpacked stuff softens up and recompacts well. Keeps dust down too.

Good luck and no, this forum is not too advanced for you.

S

 

[donconnery]

Hi guys!

Resurrecting an old thread here hoping for some help...

I'm having a really hard time finding a dealer with a GS0548 in stock, and nobody is really into ordering one. I have found a few 0560's. Do you think I could pull this with a BX23S??

 

[Frogmore]

I have the 48" GS on a B2620. It is going to depend on what you are trying to do. I can pull the GS in high gear and go fast, but I have to have it just grazing the top of the road. I do this to get a very smooth road (and it is fun). But, when I have the rippers down and it is full of material even in low and 4WD I loose traction if there is even a little bit uphill (less than 5% grade). So, it is possible your BX could handle it for some things, but that GS really is too big for doing real work with the weight of your tractor (the horsepower is probably marginal too). I know I agonized getting the 4' or the 5' and I am glad I went with the 4' one.