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   / Landscape Rake Build #191  
Very, very cool!

I gotta ask. What are the indexing plates for. They don't seem to have a function. Manual pin if you loose hydraulics? Manual adjustment designed prior to designing for hydraulics? I don't recall mention of them in the build post, maybe I missed it.
 
   / Landscape Rake Build #192  
RedDirt said:
Very, very cool!

I gotta ask. What are the indexing plates for. They don't seem to have a function. Manual pin if you loose hydraulics? Manual adjustment designed prior to designing for hydraulics? I don't recall mention of them in the build post, maybe I missed it.


In the very first post, Larry said it would be manually pinned or hydraulically controlled.
 
   / Landscape Rake Build #193  
Larry,

Very impressive. I have high expectations for your projects, and you suprised me by exceeding those expectations!!!!!

Eddie
 
   / Landscape Rake Build
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#194  
Runner said:
OH, crap! I just realized, it's not iMatch compatible!
Just kidding. It's a work of art and an inspiration for me to go out and 'try' and build something.
Thanks.
Thanks Runner,
Not sure if it's iMatch compatible or not, if it's not - good for me, bad for you HaHaHa :p



SkunkWerX said:
quote: Did anyone realize my original design concept incorporated that feature?
I wondered why you were going with that long cylinder!??!
Now it makes perfect sense!
That is a great feature, to be able to quickly spin it around and push a pile of accumulated rake debris out of the way. Good thinking!
Thanks for your comments SkunkWerX - The length of that windrow angle / rotate cylinder was chosen in order to get a true parallelogram, (anchor points for the cylinder have 8" of offset, but parallel to the swing and swivel points on the boom) This allows the tines to stay at right angles to the line of pull no matter what the swing offset position is. I consider the length of that cylinder to be correct, as opposed to being "long". ;)


mjncad said:
What are you going to build for an encore Larry?
What? the rake is not good enough for you? Sheesh, :rolleyes:


RedDirt said:
Very, very cool!
I gotta ask. What are the indexing plates for. They don't seem to have a function. Manual pin if you loose hydraulics? Manual adjustment designed prior to designing for hydraulics? I don't recall mention of them in the build post, maybe I missed it.
Thank you RedDirt, I appreciate your comments and your question.
In addition to what J.J. answered for me, Since I was designing from scratch, I thought why not have a universal design that anyone could use, but more importantly, the plates serve as support for all that cantilevered weight so that it does not all rest on the king pins. The holes in them also serve as a guide to know what exact angular position it's set to and aided in construction. With your keen eye, you may have noticed there are two index plates stacked on top of each other at the tine bar end. That was done in order to get clearance between the tops of the cylinder connecting pin heads and the boom when the bar is rotated completely underneath the boom.


EddieWalker said:
Larry,
Very impressive. I have high expectations for your projects, and you suprised me by exceeding those expectations!!!!!
Eddie
Thank you Eddie,
The way this turned out, I surprised myself as well. When I stuck my neck out and started posting this project, I then realized the whole TBN community was watching, so it better be good, or else. :eek:


Larry
 
   / Landscape Rake Build #195  
360 degree rotation ??? Nope, I didnt see that one coming. Guess I gotta go back to work on mine. Really, that thing is a work of art.
 
   / Landscape Rake Build #196  
GuglioLS said:
I was keeping this secret for a BIG SURPRISE ending. Did anyone realize my original design concept incorporated that feature?

No i didnt... but here is see the need to put those index plates to use: If you push a big pile of trash with this cylinder on its dead point, you will likely damage something due to the high forces on the mounts and cylinder.

For normal use the cylinder will hold, but it will give trouble when used near this dead point...
 
   / Landscape Rake Build #197  
Renze said:
No i didnt... but here is see the need to put those index plates to use: If you push a big pile of trash with this cylinder on its dead point, you will likely damage something due to the high forces on the mounts and cylinder.

For normal use the cylinder will hold, but it will give trouble when used near this dead point...

Did you notice the size of the spindle pin, and the bearings. That is pretty hefty stock, and the cylinder is just sitting there at the dead spot. It should hold in that spot especially if the system has load checks.
 
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   / Landscape Rake Build #198  
GuglioLS, your landscape rake is looking pretty professional. You should start a little business of selling the plasma cut pieces!
 
   / Landscape Rake Build #199  
Larry, you may be setting the bar a tad high for the rest of us to follow :) Great project, photos and storyline. Now for the dumb question.........How come you just didn't make the 360 blade interchangeable with a rake or a combo unit :confused:
 
   / Landscape Rake Build #200  
J_J said:
Did you notice the size of the spindle pin, and the bearings. That is pretty hefty stock, and the cylinder is just sitting there at the dead spot. It should hold in that spot especially if the system has load checks.

Yes i noticed: While the bolts that hold the cylinder mounting brackets starts to shear off, the kingpin and bearings will still be laughing in your face, with that load ;)

Check valves arent designed to hold against that pressure. they are designed to hold a load when a hose bursts, or prevent dropping the load when the spool valve is leaking. near the dead point, with check valves, the forces in the cylinder can get so high (5 times operating pressure or more) that they expand the cylinder tube, and then leak internally along the piston seal.
 

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