latest on my new trailer saga
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wvpolekat
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here, if you have a 'home built' trailer, all it needs is a weight slip to prove unloaded weight, then it is registered and tagged according to weight just like any other trailer.
If they hassle me much more I'm gonna ask them to just tag it as home built... it's becoming evident that the state government is too big for it's own pants if they can't tag a trailer.... man.. I need a govt job.. get paid and don't do yer job..
soundguy
Here, for a home built trailer, you have to list where you got the materials. They REALLY want receipts too. Guess they want to know you didn't build it from stolen scrap or something.
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You think you got problems, I'm here in NY, and they got a way of reaching into a man's pocket ain't nobody else ever thoght of. On top of that everybody and his 3rd cousin gets in on the act. We got state DMV offoices, county DMV offices and even a few insurance salesmen who hand out license plates if you buy insurance from them.
When I moved here I went to do the honest thing and move my CDL to NY like the law says I have to. Dang good thing I went to the county office cause they got chairs there you can sit in when the wind gets knocked out of a man hearing the price they want. Nice lady on the counter looks at my license and asks me if I really need all the special stamps, and says I best sit myself. Took her a full 10 minutes to find out just what all I was licensed to do, and that probably half of them stamps don't exist in NY, then she give me the price. Good thing I was sitting. I figure she's seen it before, cause she just told me I didn't need to renew for another 18 months, and long as I was back in Maryland for just 1 day every 6 months I could keep that license till it ran out. She even said nobody was ever going to bother checking if I went back to Maryland, and if I got stopped just to say I was out of NY regularly and not really living in NY.
Well I'm over to the donut shop one day, real good donuts they got there, and get to talking to another fellow lives about a mile from me and he clues me in. He asks me if the trailer I hauuled for years had to be licensed in the state I was in, and I said not for last 25 years. Then he asks me if I heard of nonresident plates from Maine, and I of course hadn't. Seems that state got smart enough that half of the 18 wheelers running the east coast got Maine plates on them, and then they got smarter and decided to issue trailer plates to anybody who got 19 bucks and a postage stamp cause most them trailers not going to wear out their pavement. Shot if I put NY plates on my little 8 x 12 trailer in NY it cost me $18 a year PLUS $21 a year for inspection. Maine only charges 19 bucks and that is a trip to Burger King or the donut shop.
I called up the lady over to the Maine office and she couldn't have been nicer, even told me they send a few hundred trailer plates a year to Hawii if you can believe that.
Got another fellow in town who collects them 1950 motorscooters made by Cushman and Monkey Ward and Sears. He went to DMMV and they told him his motorbikes didn't exist so he couldn't get license plates for them. Well, he put 2 of them motorbikes that didn't exist on a trailer and hauled them over to the DMV, and then they told him NY has a list, and if his motorbikes werent on that list they didn't exist cause of some fool law, so he couldn't get no plates and without plates he can't ride them bikes on the road. I give him the phone number for the Maine lady, and 2 weeks later he's putting along through the village with a Maine plate on back of his bike. He don't have to get no dang inspection sticker for the bike either.
Tell you things are getting pretty dang bad when one state gets itself a major case of stupid like NY, and another state has to come to the rescue of the common man. Then again it's a good thing Maine does come to the rescue.
When I moved here I went to do the honest thing and move my CDL to NY like the law says I have to. Dang good thing I went to the county office cause they got chairs there you can sit in when the wind gets knocked out of a man hearing the price they want. Nice lady on the counter looks at my license and asks me if I really need all the special stamps, and says I best sit myself. Took her a full 10 minutes to find out just what all I was licensed to do, and that probably half of them stamps don't exist in NY, then she give me the price. Good thing I was sitting. I figure she's seen it before, cause she just told me I didn't need to renew for another 18 months, and long as I was back in Maryland for just 1 day every 6 months I could keep that license till it ran out. She even said nobody was ever going to bother checking if I went back to Maryland, and if I got stopped just to say I was out of NY regularly and not really living in NY.
Well I'm over to the donut shop one day, real good donuts they got there, and get to talking to another fellow lives about a mile from me and he clues me in. He asks me if the trailer I hauuled for years had to be licensed in the state I was in, and I said not for last 25 years. Then he asks me if I heard of nonresident plates from Maine, and I of course hadn't. Seems that state got smart enough that half of the 18 wheelers running the east coast got Maine plates on them, and then they got smarter and decided to issue trailer plates to anybody who got 19 bucks and a postage stamp cause most them trailers not going to wear out their pavement. Shot if I put NY plates on my little 8 x 12 trailer in NY it cost me $18 a year PLUS $21 a year for inspection. Maine only charges 19 bucks and that is a trip to Burger King or the donut shop.
I called up the lady over to the Maine office and she couldn't have been nicer, even told me they send a few hundred trailer plates a year to Hawii if you can believe that.
Got another fellow in town who collects them 1950 motorscooters made by Cushman and Monkey Ward and Sears. He went to DMMV and they told him his motorbikes didn't exist so he couldn't get license plates for them. Well, he put 2 of them motorbikes that didn't exist on a trailer and hauled them over to the DMV, and then they told him NY has a list, and if his motorbikes werent on that list they didn't exist cause of some fool law, so he couldn't get no plates and without plates he can't ride them bikes on the road. I give him the phone number for the Maine lady, and 2 weeks later he's putting along through the village with a Maine plate on back of his bike. He don't have to get no dang inspection sticker for the bike either.
Tell you things are getting pretty dang bad when one state gets itself a major case of stupid like NY, and another state has to come to the rescue of the common man. Then again it's a good thing Maine does come to the rescue.
did you get a manufacturers statement of origin with the new trailer?
I have been fighting my homebuilt trailer for years, every time I move to a new state, they make me put new stamped VIN numbers on it....my flatbed has transferred successfully every time
I have been fighting my homebuilt trailer for years, every time I move to a new state, they make me put new stamped VIN numbers on it....my flatbed has transferred successfully every time
I've never had any "issues" with any homebuilt trailers I've made....I just jumped through the hoops they asked me to jump through. Wasn't a big deal at all. I made sure everything was in compliance with the regulations, then called the Highway Patrol office to schedule an inspection. When the officer finished his inspection, he gave me a copy of the report which I then took down the street to a bank to have notarized. Turned that and a bill of materials used over to the DMV and got a certificate of origin and a VIN.....and that was it.
In situations like the original poster's, I really do wonder what's going on. But LOTS of the "difficulties" I've seen other folks having when I'm standing in line at the motor vehicle office aren't issues with the rules and regulations at all. The plain truth is that many people haven't done their homework, and/or they're trying to find some loophole or work-around that will suit their situation.
Ever notice how stuff you buy at the store used to be packaged in a manner that would allow you to open the darn thing up and have your new gadget out in a matter of seconds, whereas nowadays you need to open a box, then take out the tough plastic bubble packaging enclosure and hack it open with a knife, then remove the item from the plastic only to find small twist ties holding it all together?
Well, it's kind of the same thing. All of that pain-in-the-arse packaging was introduced because too many people were buying stuff without doing their homework first to see if a given product really suited their needs, OR, they were buying the item thinking they'd try it out for a while and return it saying it was never used by boxing it back up.
The steps required to title and license a trailer that doesn't have a manufacturers certificate of origin are, (at least partially), the result of people trying to get away with something somewhere along the line.
Standing in line at the DMV isn't entertaining in and of itself, but listening to the other customers' myriad of tall tales it becomes amusing enough to help pass the time.
"Do you have a title or VIN number"?
"Nope, it's for the farm."
"Do you have a bill of materials used?"
"Nope, everything was free, or so the guy I got it from at an auction told me."
"Do you have an inspection report?"
"Nope, it's a homebuilt trailer, and some guy that used to live down the road sold it at his auction to another guy. I traded him a mower and a goat for it."
"So shall we say that it's constructed of materials that are worth approximately as much as a used riding mower and a goat?"
"Yep."
"And shall we also say that based on your say-so it doesn't require things like the pesky inspection report to determine whether or not it's roadworthy?"
"Yep."
"Why is that again?"
"I already told you.....It's for the farm!"
"But you have a very non-rural address listed as your residence...."
"I don't live or work on a farm, but my brother does. He told me that it was okay to park it there. So you see....it's for the farm."
In situations like the original poster's, I really do wonder what's going on. But LOTS of the "difficulties" I've seen other folks having when I'm standing in line at the motor vehicle office aren't issues with the rules and regulations at all. The plain truth is that many people haven't done their homework, and/or they're trying to find some loophole or work-around that will suit their situation.
Ever notice how stuff you buy at the store used to be packaged in a manner that would allow you to open the darn thing up and have your new gadget out in a matter of seconds, whereas nowadays you need to open a box, then take out the tough plastic bubble packaging enclosure and hack it open with a knife, then remove the item from the plastic only to find small twist ties holding it all together?
Well, it's kind of the same thing. All of that pain-in-the-arse packaging was introduced because too many people were buying stuff without doing their homework first to see if a given product really suited their needs, OR, they were buying the item thinking they'd try it out for a while and return it saying it was never used by boxing it back up.
The steps required to title and license a trailer that doesn't have a manufacturers certificate of origin are, (at least partially), the result of people trying to get away with something somewhere along the line.
Standing in line at the DMV isn't entertaining in and of itself, but listening to the other customers' myriad of tall tales it becomes amusing enough to help pass the time.
"Do you have a title or VIN number"?
"Nope, it's for the farm."
"Do you have a bill of materials used?"
"Nope, everything was free, or so the guy I got it from at an auction told me."
"Do you have an inspection report?"
"Nope, it's a homebuilt trailer, and some guy that used to live down the road sold it at his auction to another guy. I traded him a mower and a goat for it."
"So shall we say that it's constructed of materials that are worth approximately as much as a used riding mower and a goat?"
"Yep."
"And shall we also say that based on your say-so it doesn't require things like the pesky inspection report to determine whether or not it's roadworthy?"
"Yep."
"Why is that again?"
"I already told you.....It's for the farm!"
"But you have a very non-rural address listed as your residence...."
"I don't live or work on a farm, but my brother does. He told me that it was okay to park it there. So you see....it's for the farm."
wvpolekat
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Standing in line at the DMV isn't entertaining in and of itself, but listening to the other customers' myriad of tall tales it becomes amusing enough to help pass the time.
"Do you have a title or VIN number"?
"Nope, it's for the farm."
"Do you have a bill of materials used?"
"Nope, everything was free, or so the guy I got it from at an auction told me."
"Do you have an inspection report?"
"Nope, it's a homebuilt trailer, and some guy that used to live down the road sold it at his auction to another guy. I traded him a mower and a goat for it."
"So shall we say that it's constructed of materials that are worth approximately as much as a used riding mower and a goat?"
"Yep."
"And shall we also say that based on your say-so it doesn't require things like the pesky inspection report to determine whether or not it's roadworthy?"
"Yep."
"Why is that again?"
"I already told you.....It's for the farm!"
"But you have a very non-rural address listed as your residence...."
"I don't live or work on a farm, but my brother does. He told me that it was okay to park it there. So you see....it's for the farm."
Around here, you just paint "Farm Use" on it and don't need plates.
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I have built 2 trailers. Both small 3,500# units. One for a boat and one for a pig roaster. When I say built I mean built. On the pig roaster I even made the axle.
Anyway all you do in Indiana is go to our BMV, and get a Vin# issued along with some paper work. You then get the Vin affixed to the tongue and call your local law to come out and inspect it. One trailer the guy never got out of his car and could not even see the trailer due to it being in the garage with the door shut.
To put the Vin on I just go to a trophy shop and have a small plate made then pop rivet it on.
Once the law fills out the paperwork you take it back to the BMV and they issue a title and you get your plates.
Chris
Anyway all you do in Indiana is go to our BMV, and get a Vin# issued along with some paper work. You then get the Vin affixed to the tongue and call your local law to come out and inspect it. One trailer the guy never got out of his car and could not even see the trailer due to it being in the garage with the door shut.
To put the Vin on I just go to a trophy shop and have a small plate made then pop rivet it on.
Once the law fills out the paperwork you take it back to the BMV and they issue a title and you get your plates.
Chris
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well.. tag expires today.. we'll see what goes on tomorrow at the dmv
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