Lean to Shed

   / Lean to Shed #11  
You could add posts to the house side not supported by the house but the provides a temporary wall. Then when the house goes add the second half of a shed.

Check out your local lumberyard. They should have all the information you require. Eg. Fasteners, rafter sizes/spacing, purlin sizes/spacing and what is required for different roofing material. They should also have information on where and how diagonal bracing is placed and what is required for wind loading.
 
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Truck under cover isnt a necessity.
Just a want
 
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Used sketch Up Make to draw is out. Please someone take a look at tell me your thoughts. One was set with a 24' long, max height 11'3" shed and the other was set with a 32' long, max height 9' shed. The pitch was calculated at 2:12.

Posts are going to be 6x6. What size rafters? Ledger and header boards? Anything doubled up? Will my rafters have to be doubled because of the length? Is that length doable without a midpoint support?

9ft shed Shed at 9ft.skp - Google Drive

11ft shed Shed at 11 ft 3.skp - Google Drive

Sketch up maker is a free app. ANY help is greatly appreciated.
 
   / Lean to Shed #15  
Not available for me to see on ipad.
 
   / Lean to Shed #17  
Solid advise!!

You said that you are going to use metal for the roof. There are a couple type of metal out there, but they all install about the same. With metal, you do not need as many rafters. Spacing of the rafters is dictated by the purlins. My rule of thumb is the space my rafters 4 feet apart on center, if using 2x4's on the flat for purlins, which gives you a lot of wood to screw into. If you space your rafters 6 feet apart, you use 2x6 purlins on the edge. 8 foot spacing means 2x8's on the edge. Purlins should be every 4 feet or less.

The other thing to factor in is how far out will your roof extend? For me, I use 2x6's for 12 feet of span, 2x8's for less then 16 feet and 2x10s for more then 16 feet. After that, I'm going to use trusses or add a beam with a post. This is not for snow loads, and it's just how I like to build things.

For posts, a 4x4 is plenty strong enough to carry the load, but with modern pressure treatment, they are unreliable and very likely to bow or twist on you fairly quickly. 4x6's will give you a better chance of remaining straight, but I recently saw a few that had bowed significantly in just a year at a clients house. I use 6x6's for all my jobs because I never have to come back and fix anything. They are heavy, but well worth the effort once you have them in the ground.

Flashing is also really important and something that takes a little effort at the beginning to avoid long term headaches down the road. Ideally, you want your flashing to be under your siding of the existing building so water runs down the building wall, over the flashing and then over the metal roof and then out over the building. This sounds simple, but it's often the source of a lot of issues.

Since you are new to this, you might want to get some graph paper and draw out your framing. Then take a picture of it and post it on here for everyone to review. This is very basic framing, but it's also where a lot of the DIYers skip a step to get it done quickly that they really shouldn't have skipped.
Eddie is spot on.

I emphasize the use of 6x6 posts (yeah overkill strengthwise but it will look better, and use flashing... wetter around these parts to the point where if you don't flash it won't last. Snow loads aren't a factor here though so Eddie's 2 by X recommendations based on length are good. Basically what I have done for a few lean to's.
 
   / Lean to Shed #18  
Just remember the rafters have to be designed to support the purlins as well as the roof loading.

Wider the rafters are spaced the more weigh each must carry. The same goes for the purlins.
 
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I used 2x6 for a 12' span, I'd let others chime in but for a 20' span 2x6 might work or 2x8.

My lean to is stable as anything and every summer we get 15mph winds in the evenings and sometimes it seems like 50mph gusts and it's been up for 4 years now but it is set up so wind blows through it...
 
   / Lean to Shed #20  
You can search for "Rafter span tables" and get the table that shows the size of lumber and spacing required for the span (based on snow loading, etc). These are what you would have to use if you were building to a code. If you don't have to get permits, be aware that the tables have a good bit of margin in them. Even with light loads, a 20 foot span would probably only be OK with 2 x 6 at 12 inch spacing. If I were doing it with metal roofing, I would probably push it a little and use 2x8s at 24 inch spacing but it wouldn't quite meet code.
 

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