Learning how to drive with a trailer..

   / Learning how to drive with a trailer.. #131  
Okay this is something that at 58yo, I have never done and its on my list to learn. I have a tow package on my truck, but no hitch and I don't own a trailer yet. To make things more interesting I live in the country and there are lots of windy small roads...some so narrow I fold in my trucks side mirror when I am on them...as I know from experience can be an issue. Two weeks after getting this truck someone came too far over and we slapped mirrors.

Anyway what is the wisest and safest way you guys would recommend to get into this? I want to get a trailer for the tractor at some point and a small camper.

I am one of those people that is typically, cool calm and collected and not easily stressed out. But for some reason thinking about getting stuck on one of these curvy back roads and having to back out or turn around with a trailer etc tenses me up just thinking about it lol.

Thanks in advance!
I have a buddy who just learned to back a trailer for the first time in his mid 40s. He did this with a tractor trailer getting his CDL, so don't think you're ever too old to learn. He was also very intimidated but all it really took was a lot of practice. I would recommend practicing up and down your driveway until backing feels like second nature. Include in this practice sharp turns in reverse if you can. The only other thing to worry about is going forward to swing wide around corners. This will also become second nature of you do it enough.
 
   / Learning how to drive with a trailer.. #132  
Backing up with a trailer can be confusing which way to turn the wheel. Remember this: use the bottom of the steering wheel when backing, not the top. Turn the steering wheel from the bottom in the direction you want the trailer to go.
 
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Forward, not so much of an issue.

Backwards, a whole 'nother can of worms.

Backwards around a curve with no room? That takes some experience.

It's less difficult with a longer wheelbase and if you can see the trailer. Up until now, I've only had a small 4 x 8 with a short wheelbase. It's a real bugger to back up, even with a car.

Once you get it in to the property, practice, practice, practice.

Opposite steering while pushing an object just takes some getting used to.
 
   / Learning how to drive with a trailer.. #134  
When you buy the trailer, get a spare tire with a mount for it.
I had blowout on I-5 in Washington going 70 mph with 2 tractors on the back (heavy) and if it wasn't for the spare tire I would of been in deep trouble.
+1 on having a (air-filled 😊) spare trailer tire whenever you travel. In my “incident” it was a PITA to change out, but I was glad I could do it and move on.
Afterwards, I charged my trailer tires and my trailer spare with ULTRASEAL sealant (sold by Gempler’s and direct) in their formulation that is recommended for highway travel speeds. It’s easy to instill the product, and Ultraseal provides tables so you can get the correct amount for your tire size. They also sell formula for tractors (low speed) w/ higher amount of Kevlar shreds in it, but its viscosity makes it a problem at highway speeds. I don’t know if any trailers have “TPI” but if you do, check with Ultraseal to see if the sealant interferes with the sensor. I have zero connection w Ultraseal, but have been a very satisfied consumer for more than 20 years. I’m sure there are other good manufacturers out there, too.
 
   / Learning how to drive with a trailer.. #135  
If you have a garden tractor or a compact one, could you practice with that? I find backing with our atv to be much easier than a truck. Point is to practice with something that is easier. View attachment 788197
Learn to back with mirrors. Pick one mirror, preferably the drivers. If you can’t see the trailer, get a couple of markers on poles and attach them to the rear of whatever you are backing. Pick a line you want to stay on until you get the hang of what’s going on behind you. I say choose a mirror because if you look from one side to the other you will end up over correcting. Truly the shorter the tongue, the quicker it will turn. Watch that drivers mirror and as soon as you see the trailer starting to move either direction, turn the steering wheel toward what you see. If you see the trailer in your left mirror, turn left. Try to make adjustments small and go slow at first. If you can’t see the trailer in your left mirror and you glance to the right and it’s there, turn the wheel right. The back of the trailer will go the opposite direction you turn the wheel but in this way you will get to where you won’t even think about it. The most important part is to stage the truck and trailer straight. Let’s just use a boat ramp for an example. To get your trailer straight you will drive past the point you want the rear of the trailer to end up at. Then you will crank the vehicle sharp to the left. You can actually see the rear end of the trailer react. Then crank it back to the right until you are sitting square with the water. You now have better control of the trailer. I have backed semi trailers on curvy roads. Like they have all said, it just takes practice but use a method you don’t have to think about what you are doing. Aim the nose of the truck in the direction you see the trailer if it starts getting out of position.
 
   / Learning how to drive with a trailer.. #136  
Learn to back with mirrors. Pick one mirror, preferably the drivers. If you can’t see the trailer, get a couple of markers on poles and attach them to the rear of whatever you are backing. Pick a line you want to stay on until you get the hang of what’s going on behind you. I say choose a mirror because if you look from one side to the other you will end up over correcting. Truly the shorter the tongue, the quicker it will turn. Watch that drivers mirror and as soon as you see the trailer starting to move either direction, turn the steering wheel toward what you see. If you see the trailer in your left mirror, turn left. Try to make adjustments small and go slow at first. If you can’t see the trailer in your left mirror and you glance to the right and it’s there, turn the wheel right. The back of the trailer will go the opposite direction you turn the wheel but in this way you will get to where you won’t even think about it. The most important part is to stage the truck and trailer straight. Let’s just use a boat ramp for an example. To get your trailer straight you will drive past the point you want the rear of the trailer to end up at. Then you will crank the vehicle sharp to the left. You can actually see the rear end of the trailer react. Then crank it back to the right until you are sitting square with the water. You now have better control of the trailer. I have backed semi trailers on curvy roads. Like they have all said, it just takes practice but use a method you don’t have to think about what you are doing. Aim the nose of the truck in the direction you see the trailer if it starts getting out of position.
Nearly all the backing up we do is around corners so "just mirrors" doesn't cut it. I look back and use them. When a corner is tight, mirrores are worthless.
 
   / Learning how to drive with a trailer.. #137  
Okay this is something that at 58yo, I have never done and its on my list to learn. I have a tow package on my truck, but no hitch and I don't own a trailer yet. To make things more interesting I live in the country and there are lots of windy small roads...some so narrow I fold in my trucks side mirror when I am on them...as I know from experience can be an issue. Two weeks after getting this truck someone came too far over and we slapped mirrors.

Anyway what is the wisest and safest way you guys would recommend to get into this? I want to get a trailer for the tractor at some point and a small camper.

I am one of those people that is typically, cool calm and collected and not easily stressed out. But for some reason thinking about getting stuck on one of these curvy back roads and having to back out or turn around with a trailer etc tenses me up just thinking about it lol.

Thanks in advance!
I'm sorry I have not had time to read all the replies. I learned to back up trailers with my lawn tractor and a short lawn trailer. If you have a riding mower hook up a cheap trailer while mowing the lawn and you will get to control the trailer a little at a time without cars to worry about. Relax and it will become second nature. I don't believe in the rules people try to tell you left to go right etc because I feel those can confuse people. As you move slowly you will see how the trailer responds.
Take a breath and make it enjoyable.
 
   / Learning how to drive with a trailer.. #138  
Given the windiness of your roads, it sounds like you have good chance of getting stuck or jammed up, especially with oncoming traffic.

One thing you might want to consider is mounting an additional hitch receiver on the FRONT of your truck. If you ever get into a serious jam backing up, you can unhitch, turn your truck around and hitch to the front. This gives you all the control in the world to move the trailer backward (truck now moving forward), and you have a direct line of sight.

You can do it for a couple hundred bucks, plus it makes a great place to mount a heavy duty winch.
 
   / Learning how to drive with a trailer.. #139  
Put your hand on the bottom of the steering wheel. If you need the trailer to go left, move your hand to the left. Right? Move your hand to the right.

Not picking on you but a bunch of people have said variations of that and it's not that simple. Once you get the trailer turning the direction you want, you have to have the tow vehicle follow it in order to maintain roughly the same turn radius. That means turning the wheel back the other way. If you turn right to make the trailer go left and don't do anything else, you'll jack knife the trailer.
 
   / Learning how to drive with a trailer.. #140  
backing a trailer 101.
first practice backing in a straight line - use your side mirrors (both sides) - if more trailer appears in one mirror, pull DOWN on the steering wheel on that side until there is the same amount of trailer in each mirror.
once you can back in a straight line, put a bit of angle on one side, and back round a curve keeping the same amount of angle all the time - if the amount of trailer visible increases, pull DOWN otherwise adjust the steering wheel UP (always use SMALL adjustments).
when you can keep the same angle of curve backing either left or right, experiment backing round a curve and between two SOFT targets (plastic trash bins) from both left and right.

needs a big paddock with no obstacles, but as has been said already, practice, practice, practice
 

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