Let's discuss deer fencing...

   / Let's discuss deer fencing... #31  
Offset fences are generally done with two 4' fences placed 3' apart. The fences are generally electric. I'd like very much NOT to electrify the fence. Since my particular needs are vineyard related, I need to consider the fact that my customers (we'll have a winery on premise as well) might wander over to take a look at the vines. Obviously, shocking my clients with anything other than my prices would not be a good business practice. That said, having an 8' tall fence is going to obstruct the view as well.

There are indications on the web that the offset fence doesn't need to be electric, so I'm wondering if anyone has done this without charging the fence. I'm thinking of two 4' fences, the first would use woven wire to control coons and rabbits and the second would be high tensil wire only. The thought is that the deer would come to the first fence, look over and see the second, and then move on.

Although - if I were to use a 6 foot fence in back with 4' of woven wire and the rest in high tensil, then place a 4' fence directly in front with high tensil only...

My thoughts on the 4' woven wire come from an assumption that I could do this myself. I don't have the same confidence level for 8' woven wire...


8' woven wire isn't that bad. The rolls are heavy but when you start standing it up it actually stands up on its own. You will want a couple helpers but it isn't as bad as you might fear. Also, from my own personal point of view, a single 8' woven wire fence is a lot more attractive then a 4' fence with single strands above it. If you get your corners set good the rest of the fence is easy and it stays looking nice. Also, if you want you could plant a few grape vines along the fence and let them grow up it. The vines actually look real nice with the bunches hanging on the fence. Just don't plant them too close, just a few for decoration.
 
   / Let's discuss deer fencing... #32  
Very interested! I know that a deer can jump7' 1/2", she slapped the top but cleared it. We are fencing our place to keep deer out of fields. Did not have much money- never good when talking fence- so: I put 8' posts on angle and welded to top of five strand barb wire. The post top is to the outside and we put three wires on it. Corner posts are plumb to keep wire in tension. Steel stake is drove at bottom of 8' post and welded to secure to ground. I have spots were some squeeze through but it is still a work in progress. Any spot growed up is still just five strand. Hope it helps and I will keep checking for more suggestions from y'all.
Jody
P. S.
The deer that jumped it was on inside, my hope was the angle outward would mess up their depth perception. My theory is not proven but I saw the other direction fail.

A deer will not jump that high of a fence unless they are scared. Generally they crash at the 6' high mark. A tall fence will keep most deer out as it is too much work for them to go over it.
 
   / Let's discuss deer fencing... #33  
I have about 4 acres fenced with 5' chain-link fence to keep dogs in. The deer hop in and out of the fence at will. I've seen the deer stand by the fence and hop over it with no running start. I once saw 6 deer gather at the fence and hop over at the same spot one after the other. This happens so often that the dogs usually ignore them. I guess they believe in peaceful co-existence. The deer don't bother me. there's nothing fenced in that they can damage. My problem is that the deer occasionally bump the top rail while jumping over the fence and bend the top rail, so the top rail is bent in several places. Also, there are several bulges in the fence fabric where running deer have run into the fence.
 
   / Let's discuss deer fencing... #34  

My father shot this video in his back yard. It is relevant to the topic. And funny.
 
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My father shot this video in his back yard. It is relevant to the topic. And funny.
Well, 6' appeared to be a bit high for this one! He made it over, but that had to hurt! Also brings into question an earlier comment that deer will not jump a fence they can't see through...
 
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A deer will not jump that high of a fence unless they are scared. Generally they crash at the 6' high mark. A tall fence will keep most deer out as it is too much work for them to go over it.

What are you calling tall. I would not say she was scared, she just left when she saw me. I don't want scared deer eating my crops either:)
 
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8' woven wire isn't that bad. The rolls are heavy but when you start standing it up it actually stands up on its own. You will want a couple helpers but it isn't as bad as you might fear. Also, from my own personal point of view, a single 8' woven wire fence is a lot more attractive then a 4' fence with single strands above it. If you get your corners set good the rest of the fence is easy and it stays looking nice. Also, if you want you could plant a few grape vines along the fence and let them grow up it. The vines actually look real nice with the bunches hanging on the fence. Just don't plant them too close, just a few for decoration.
I noted that you're in NY, so when I buy the 8' fence and it kicks my butt you're too far to assist! :laughing: But you've got me thinking again...

How did you stretch the wire?
 
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Here is mine. 8-foot game fencing that encloses about .85 acres. Put it all up by myself. I think that some of the larger deer could jump it if sufficiently motivated but has been up for four years and I haven't seen any sign that a deer has been inside the fence.
 

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   / Let's discuss deer fencing... #39  
I have a lot of deer pressure. This is what we did. 4' high field fence on the bottom and 3' high chickenwire on the top around our orchard. Its all on tposts and two pt posts (doorway).
Around trees we are planting we used tubex tubes 5' high ones worked really well.
Around regeneration plantings and around my hazelnuts I put in 3' high fieldfence (had it on hand) and then strung fishing wire around the top. They do not pass through it. When I do food plots I put in fiberglass poles and fishing line and the deer do not go through. I do put some flagging on it to let them know something is there but other then that nothing else.
 
   / Let's discuss deer fencing... #40  
WHY??? why spend all the $$$$$ and do all the work when one electric wire that you can push bown with a plastic bucket on and step over will work? We ran a wire like that up yhe side of the road and the deer would not even run that way when the dogs were chaseing them, they went around the fence. I don't understand.
 

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