Lets talk camera's.

[houstonscott]

I purchased a highly rated PAS Nikon,,, It does NOTHING my Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge phone can not do. This pic was taken Friday night with my phone,,, The sky color is 100% correct, in my opinion. (it is what I saw!! :thumbsup I consider my phone to be an amazing camera,, the Nikon D7000 stays in the bag!!

A real review of that photo. Lots of noise in that photo, very poor low light performance, not much detail at all. No detail in darks, and lights are over blown. Imagine processing color in your S7 is were the magic is not in the sensor or lens. It looks good as a very small photo on a very small display with a glossy screen. It's how they hook you. You print that and tell us about how great it is....and you don't have a photo until you print it....

 

[houstonscott]

Interesting thread, I have only used my cell for pics, I recently bought a 8 plus and am happy with it over my 6 BUT it can&#146;t compete with some pics on this thread. As far as low light, I took some after I got done working on my truck tonight, night time outside. <img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=523969"/><img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=523970"/><img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=523971"/><img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=523972"/> Those are the optimized ones I can post here, guess the originals are too big of files. Some others <img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=523974"/><img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=523975"/>

Lack of sharpness, low light high iso noise, and poor details, make it very easy to see they are phone shots.

 

[Piston]

I've read picking a lens system first then a body makes more sense. Most pick a camera then lens.

I wish more people would realize this method of thinking in relation to tractors as well. I always try to recommend looking at the implements you need first, then decide on a tractor.

It's the same idea with cameras and tractors.

 

[/pine]

...I always try to recommend looking at the implements you need first, then decide on a tractor....

Wouldn't the work/tasks/jobs be the first objective in this line of thought?

 

[BrokeFarmerJohn]

Lack of sharpness, low light high iso noise, and poor details, make it very easy to see they are phone shots.

I never said they where great, just examples of the camera on the 8 plus in low light, the iPhone 10 won’t be much better than this one was my point.

Nothing about smartphones vs cameras.

 

[bunyip]

I bought a Sigma 50-500, it's OK but only just, bit fuzzy at extremities so when shooting birds I wind it out to the max then back a bit and it makes all the difference.
On the plus side it was not expensive, negative side it is heavy, it has OS but at that length I use either a monopod or a tripod.
How good is the image, with both cameras we blow up to 36" with no loss of quality, we also use a pro lab and not an instore printing service, surprisingly they charge about the same but I have to wait a couple of days for a print.
I have a 1.4X teleconverter, not at all impressed but they do make a great paperweight.
Friend of mine has Hasselblads, when digital came in he found that the lens specs were different and he couldn't use what he had so he went to Canon for his studio and wedding work.

 

[Piston]

Wouldn't the work/tasks/jobs be the first objective in this line of thought?

Well how else would you know what implements to use?

That's like saying, don't you need to know what your taking a picture of, before you can choose your lens, before you can choose your camera?

I thought that went without saying.

 

[/pine]

Well how else would you know what implements to use?

That's like saying, don't you need to know what your taking a picture of, before you can choose your lens, before you can choose your camera?

I thought that went without saying.

Oh I got your point...But... (supposing)...do I need a commercial duty, hydraulic box blade or a little wimpy thing from Tractor_Supply?...do I need a 15' bat wing mower or just a heavy duty 6 footer...etc., etc....

 

[arrow]

Of all the cameras I've used, I find the Fuji's to have the best color representation. There is so much leading technology that things like image quality, sharpness, chroma, lens distortion, field of view, noise, etc are being tackled by just about anything. Manufacturers are figuring out you do not need a large body to carry a larger sensor not withstanding additional sensor technology. Bulk has become unnecessary as I'm not taking representative sports pictures with an f-4 600 mm $12,000 lens on a full body.
For me, I want the colors I'm looking at no matter what the light. I like the Fuji's best for this. Now if I can just be satisfied with a 35 mm as my only lens. It's like learning to drink coffee with no sugar.

 

[houstonscott]

Of all the cameras I've used, I find the Fuji's to have the best color representation. There is so much leading technology that things like image quality, sharpness, chroma, lens distortion, field of view, noise, etc are being tackled by just about anything. Manufacturers are figuring out you do not need a large body to carry a larger sensor not withstanding additional sensor technology. Bulk has become unnecessary as I'm not taking representative sports pictures with an f-4 600 mm $12,000 lens on a full body. For me, I want the colors I'm looking at no matter what the light. I like the Fuji's best for this. Now if I can just be satisfied with a 35 mm as my only lens. It's like learning to drink coffee with no sugar.

Do you own a x100f. Those are the schnizznitts. I'm going for an X-T2 but waiting for Nikon to show their mirrorless full frame before I move. Fugifilm cameras are smoking everyone, it's a revolutionary time in cameras right now, all the big professionals are leaving Canon and Nikon, for Fugifilm. Their format camera is changing studio stuff too.

 

[arrow]

No I do not own this camera. I've used the XT-10 and the GFX 50s (which is an over $6000 piece but about the best I've ever used). When I had film cameras, I've always used Fuji film over Kodak unless it was black and white film as I found their b&w film a bit more subdued in grey tones leading to better poignancy in shots (imagine, a former logger talking about poignancy). Nikon color I like better than the yellow sheen of Canon stuff. I mean I can pick this up but if you ask somebody else, they'll say "what yellow"? so you may want to wait for Nikon mirror less.
This is the trouble with cameras. Whatever you buy is going to be outdated within 6-8 months. If you have a Hunt's Camera in Texas, go there and handle the X-T2. When I grab a camera, how it sits in my hand immediately is a big determining factor for me.
My pocket camera is a Lumix ZS100. A bit slow and aberated extended but with a 2.8 Leica lens, 25mm-40mm is superb.

 

[EddieWalker]

When I first went overseas I bought my first decent camera with multiple lenses. I had to carry them all in a case, along with film, batteries, flash and even a spare camera. It was fine for what it was, but with what's available today, there is no way that I would ever buy a SLR camera again. I have no desire to be a pro, and my pictures are just for my personal enjoyment. I want good pics, that are easy to take, and a camera that is not too big to carry all day long.

After starting a thread on here several years ago, I went with the Canon Powershot. My current model is the SX50. It does everything very, very well!!!

I have a 32 GB card in is, so I will never have to replace it, or lose it. I carry a spare battery for those days when I take hundreds of pictures. My theory is to take as many pictures as possible of what I'm seeing, from every angle as possible, and figure that one of them will turn out great, then delete the rest. On one vacation, I took 7,000 pictures and kept a couple hundred.

Amazon.com : Canon PowerShot SX5 HS Digital Camera : Camera & Photo

The zoom is amazing. This was Friday night.



This was two weeks ago, while doing morning chores.



Yellowstone



Peru



Croatia



South Africa

 

[arrow]

That's the thing Eddie with being fanatical ( I cannot tell you what I've spent on stereo equipment) One is so freakin introspective that it destroys the initial event. For instance, I cannot listen to music anymore for the sake of the music. Instead I listen for all the aberrations as to what I'm listening to. In other words I'm listening to the equipment instead. I've done the same with cameras. You have taken some beautiful shots and that is all I'm going to say about it. What I have is more of a curse than anything else.

 

[bunyip]

Colour representation can be deceptive unless you calibrate the monitor, if not the prints can be different to what you see on your computer.
I use a Spyder to calibrate my screen, fine tune my camera settings including colour temperature to match the day then find a good pro lab to produce my prints, I have done a lot of pro work in equestrian and most people are not that fussy but I am, our pro lab use Kodak Endura paper which I think is vastly superior to Fuji.
Take your prints to the local K Mart or whatever and you have no idea what you are going to get and if you complain some spotty little pimple will tell you in his or her 'expert' opinion what you are doing wrong, these are the same outfits that back in the film days just used replenisher until the developer didn't work any more, the pro labs use one shot.
I remeber the film days when some films were advertised as giving redder reds, greener greens etc etc, I don't want that, I want a true representation of what I have shot and my films of choice were Agfa 50S for transparancies, one of the Kodak Pro negative film but I don't recall the name and Ilford for mononchrome.
As for Fuji cameras, you realise that Fuji and Nikon are in bed together making each others bits.

 

[houstonscott]

Colour representation can be deceptive unless you calibrate the monitor, if not the prints can be different to what you see on your computer. I use a Spyder to calibrate my screen, fine tune my camera settings including colour temperature to match the day then find a good pro lab to produce my prints, I have done a lot of pro work in equestrian and most people are not that fussy but I am, our pro lab use Kodak Endura paper which I think is vastly superior to Fuji. Take your prints to the local K Mart or whatever and you have no idea what you are going to get and if you complain some spotty little pimple will tell you in his or her 'expert' opinion what you are doing wrong, these are the same outfits that back in the film days just used replenisher until the developer didn't work any more, the pro labs use one shot. I remeber the film days when some films were advertised as giving redder reds, greener greens etc etc, I don't want that, I want a true representation of what I have shot and my films of choice were Agfa 50S for transparancies, one of the Kodak Pro negative film but I don't recall the name and Ilford for mononchrome. As for Fuji cameras, you realise that Fuji and Nikon are in bed together making each others bits.

I think you'll find Fugifilm sensors are made by Sony but X trans design is owned by Fugifilm. Nikons newest sensor is the same as in the new Leica and was designed in Southern California and made by a Israeli firm who just bought up Panasonic's foundry in Japan where the new sensors are made. Olympus is in bed with both Sony and Fugifilm for their image stabilization technology, look for image stabilization in Sony and Fugifilm soon, it's rumored Fugifilm has leaked the X-t2s is on its way very soon.

 

[arrow]

I think you'll find Fugifilm sensors are made by Sony but X trans design is owned by Fugifilm. Nikons newest sensor is the same as in the new Leica and was designed in Southern California and made by a Israeli firm who just bought up Panasonic's foundry in Japan where the new sensors are made. Olympus is in bed with both Sony and Fugifilm for their image stabilization technology, look for image stabilization in Sony and Fugifilm soon, it's rumored Fugifilm has leaked the X-t2s is on its way very soon.

Another very nice camera I've used is the Sony A-6000. I don't know what you shoot but if you do video, you'd like the A-6300 better. Otherwise the 6000 is a terrific camera for the price and iq is just as good as the 6300. Only thing I had a problem with is the hard eyecup on these cameras. Kind of a nuisance if you wear glasses.

 

[bunyip]

Kind of a nuisance if you wear glasses.

I wear glasses but set the eyepiece for use without (or get a diopter) and drop the glasses down my nose when shooting, becomes second nature after a while although a nuisance when SWMBO uses the camera and all I see then is a blur after she has reset the viewfinder.

 

[houstonscott]

Another very nice camera I've used is the Sony A-6000. I don't know what you shoot but if you do video, you'd like the A-6300 better. Otherwise the 6000 is a terrific camera for the price and iq is just as good as the 6300. Only thing I had a problem with is the hard eyecup on these cameras. Kind of a nuisance if you wear glasses.

Sony is making a big splash, if you shoot more video or video is very important to you a Sony may be your ticket. Only complaint I hear is that they role out new stuff so fast people are gun shy their model may not be supported or repairable into the future, and people report Sony customer service is non existent. Sony lens are very limited, and Robustness of them is in question too.

 

[Michael Aos]

I have a 7D Mark II. It takes great pictures, but it's bulky enough I just don't take it everywhere. I wind up taking most of my pictures with my iPhone 7 Plus.

 

[houstonscott]

I have a 7D Mark II. It takes great pictures, but it's bulky enough I just don't take it everywhere. I wind up taking most of my pictures with my iPhone 7 Plus.

Yeah, big clunky DSLR's are being replaced with mirrorless cameras, for that reason, as people with phones are finding out phones are not much of a camera. I see it real quick with which pictures came out of my iPhone 7, and which ones came out of the Olympus Pen, when viewing on the iMac 5k.