Light duty diesels-emission tests now and in the future

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I've been looking at 1999-03 vintage 3/4 and 1T diesel pickups and flatbeds for a few months. This will be my first diesel truck purchase.

I'm wondering how CA and EPA emission regulations and testing will affect these older diesels. And, more importantly, whether these PUs are facing expensive upgrades to satisfy the more stringent diesel emission regulations that are coming online in the next few years.

What's the skinny on this issue? Is this a matter for real concern that should be factored into a purchase like the one I'm contemplating?

Today's Sacramento Bee has this article on CARB and commercial diesels:


POLLUTION

Air Board will weigh delay on diesel rules


FIRMS SAY RECESSION HAS DONE THE JOB

By Jim Downing
jdowning@sacbee.com



The California Air Resources Board must decide today whether the bad economy justifies giving truckers and construction firms more breathing room on the state痴 toughest-inthe-nation diesel pollution regulations.
By cutting diesel consumption, the recession has likely improved the state痴 air quality, air board staff say. Fleet owners hope to use that evidence to convince the agency that it should delay mandated retrofits and upgrades they say the recession has made them unable to afford.
典hey could not have put enough regulations in place to do what this slowdown has done, said Felipe Martin, chief financial officer at Sacramento痴 Martin Bros. Construction.
Separate sets of regulations apply to diesel trucks and construction equipment. The trucking regulations alone, set to take effect in 2011, have been projected to cost California com- panies $4.5 billion over the next two decades.
Over the next 15 years, the regulations are projected to avert about 9,400 premature deaths and save billions in medical costs and lost work time. Environmental and public health groups don稚 want the rules altered in a way that would give up any of those benefits.
典hese are probably the most important regulations that ARB has adopted in this decade, said Bonnie Holmes-Gen, senior policy directory with the American Lung Association of California.
At the same time, the air board is struggling with a festering controversy over a staff statistician, Hien Tran, who prepared a key report related to the truck rules and later was found to have lied about his academic credentials.
Tran claimed to hold a Ph.D. from the University of California, Davis. He had been a graduate student at the school, but had not completed his doctoral dissertation.
The agency knew about Tran痴 fraud before last December痴 board meeting, but it did not disclose that information to every board member or raise it at the public hearing on the trucking rules. One industry group has called for Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to fire air board Chairwoman Mary Nichols over her handling of the matter. At least two of the agency痴 nine board members have said the issue raises serious concerns about the regulations legitimacy.
典o me, it痴 a violation of the public痴 trust, said Ron Roberts, a 13-year board veteran.
Tuesday, Nichols spokesman Leo Kay said agency staff should have notified the board about the problems with Tran痴 credentials before the diesel vote. But he said the regulations were warranted even without the conclusions in Tran痴 study.
展e had mountains of other health reports guiding our hand on this regulation, Kay wrote in an e-mail.
Tran was ultimately suspended for 60 days and demoted. Air board officials ordered his study reassessed by a peer review panel, which declared it sound.
At its meeting today in downtown Sacramento, the air board is scheduled to decide whether to order staff to prepare a proposal to change the rules governing heavyduty trucks. The agency could take similar action on the construction equipment regulations. Those rules were already relaxed earlier this year.
An agency report released last week projected that recession-related pollution reductions would be sufficient to meet state air-quality targets through 2011, even if the diesel truck regulations were not enforced. In 2012 and beyond, though, regulation would be needed to keep the state on pace to meet longer-term goals, including a 2014 federal air-quality mandate.
Based on that study, the California Trucking Association is pushing for the board to delay implementation of the rules for one year to 2012 and to ease enforcement after that.
The air board could also be swayed by industry arguments that the recession has made it impossible to retrofit and replace old trucks on the agency痴 timeline. Heavy-duty truck sales in California dropped 60 percent between 2006 and 2009, according to the air board staff report.
To some degree, those slow sales cancel out the air quality benefits of reduced trucking activity because old, dirty diesel engines are replaced with new ones at a slower rate than the agency predicted last year.
鏑onger-term, emissions might not be lower even if activity is lower than our initial projections, said Tony Brasil, chief of the air board痴 heavy duty diesel implementation branch.
The regulations to be debated today do not apply to diesel pickup trucks and cars.
Call The Bee痴 Jim Downing, (916) 321-1065.

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   / Light duty diesels-emission tests now and in the future #32  
I have been reading some on this. CARB as others have stated does not care about CA economic issues. As shown in a few articles the data has been fudged, and the people in charge do not have the degrees they said they did to get the jobs they have. From what I have read it would seem no one comes up with the numbers CARB does, 9400 premature deaths over 15 years, how do they know?

I have read in several magazines about how these rules are putting people out of buisness due to they can not afford to upgrade. Some of these people had fleets of machines and or trucks less than 5 years old. It has affected the value of equipment across the country, when newer machines in CA at auction are being bought for scrap prices.

I have read that these rules will have little to no impact on air quality. Some due to as others have pointed out, burning 50-100% more fuel in these "greener" engines. I have also read the dirtiest air in CA is around the ports and airports, as others posted about the ships coming into the ports burning "bunker" fuel.

Of course now the EPA has declaired CO2 is a health risk. Even though more real scientists are coming out against man made global warming. Again, this is about an agenda, not what is right for america. I'm sure at one time, the EPA and CARB did good things, and probably to some degree still do. Now it seems like everything is more political than real science and zero common sence.
 
   / Light duty diesels-emission tests now and in the future #33  
The Port of Oakland has the most stringent diesel standards scheduled to be implemented anywhere... If you are operating a Tractor Trailer older than 1995... you will not be allowed on Port Property from my understanding.

Several hundred Tractor Trailers leaving from the Port of Oakland and destined for the Sacramento Capital were shown along Highway 80... Unfortunately, the California Highway Patrol had diverted the caravan and prevented it from reaching the Capital...

Something similar happen over the summer when farm tractors converged at the Capital... although the farmers diving tractors were not diverted from their destination...

The media is actually starting to cover this... There also have been stories of the mandatory wood burning ban during one of the coldest periods on record...
 
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More CARB news-this morning's Sacramento Bee (10dec2009)

POLLUTION

Board delays diesel rules


TRUCK EMISSIONS POLICY WILL BE RECONSIDERED

By Jim Downing
jdowning@sacbee.com



The California Air Resources Board gave truckers a break Wednesday on the state逞エ tough diesel emissions rules, acknowledging that the bad economy has both improved the state逞エ air quality and made anti-pollution upgrades unaffordable.
After a nearly seven-hour public hearing in Sacramento that featured more than 80 speakers including truckers, health and environmental advocates and even high school students from Oakland, the air board ordered modifications to the rules drawn up for consideration in April.
Those changes could include significant delays in enforcement of the rules, depending on how quickly the economy recovers. The board also could add new exemptions for small trucking fleets in rural areas and additional financial incentives for truckers to install exhaust filters or buy newer rigs.
The board, however, did not concede to demands Wednesday from some truckers who urged the agency to abandon the rules altogether or postpone them for many years. Such a move stands to put the state in violation of key 2014 federal air quality targets, which the state is bound to meet.
螻鋲 have to get the tons (of pollutants) out of the air somehow, board chairwoman Mary Nichols said.
The air board also voted Wednesday to throw out a tainted health-impact report that had become a rallying point for opponents of the diesel rules and brought the agency widespread criticism.
The board ordered the study redone, drawing praise from the trucking industry.
蜈クhat certainly went a long way to restoring faith in the process, said Julie Sauls, spokeswoman for the Sacramento-based California Trucking Association.
The controversy over the report also was the impetus for a lengthy apology delivered by Nichols at the beginning of Wednesday逞エ hearing.
Nichols said she had erred last December in not properly disclosing that the lead author of the report had lied about his academic credentials.
The air board statistician, Hien Tran, claimed to hold a Ph.D. from the University of California, Davis. He had been a graduate student at the school, but had not completed his doctoral dissertation.
Nichols and several agency staff members knew about Tran逞エ fraud before the board voted to adopt the diesel truck regulations last December. But Nichols opted not to disclose that information to the full board.
蜈クhe fact is that this was a mistake on my part, Nichols said Wednesday.
Last December, Nichols said, she thought the agency could effectively deal with Tran internally, and that the public-health case for the regulations was strong even without his report.
Tran逞エ lack of credentials was reported by bloggers soon after the December 2008 vote, but there has yet to be a full public accounting of the episode from the agency.
The issue has opened the air board to harsh criticism from truckers, industry groups, bloggers and others, including two of agency逞エ own board members, Fresno cardiologist John Telles and San Diego County Supervisor Ron Roberts.
驗*ll I can say is, I apologize, Nichols said.
Tran was suspended for 60 days and demoted, but still works at the agency. Air board officials ordered his report reassessed by a peer review panel, which declared it sound.
Tran逞エ main work on the diesel rules established the methods used to estimate the health benefits of reducing diesel pollution. A separate report calculated that the regulation would avert 9,400 premature deaths over 15 years.
Tran逞エ report has no bearing on the main federal air quality targets that the regulations are designed to meet. Those targets were established by Congress, and the state faces serious penalties, such as blocks on federal transportation funds, if it doesn遞 comply. An act of Congress could change those federal targets.
The diesel rules are currently set to take effect in 2011. By 2014, all older trucks would be required to have soot filters. Fleet operators also are required to phase in newer engines or trucks that have built-in pollution controls. By 2023, all vehicles must have a 2010 model year engine or equivalent.
Large trucking fleets have earlier compliance deadlines than small ones.
Call The Bee逞エ Jim Downing, (916) 321-1065.

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The California Air Resources Board gave truckers and trucking companies a reprieve by agreeing to modify its emissions requirements for diesel trucks. The board says it still must meet a federal due date.


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   / Light duty diesels-emission tests now and in the future #35  
Here are a couple more things that have come out about CARBS study on Diesel emissions. All I can say is thank you CARB. NY passed the same crap in the middle of the night a few years ago.

Seems CARBs estimate for fuel usage in the state was off by about 80%. This made the whole study of by about that much.

Of course it has to be a coincidence that the same day it was signed into law in NY Corning who makes filters for DPF donated to a bunch of money to campaigns. Nothing like forcing the public to buy your product based on junk science and crooked politicians.



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