Lime-- mud relief? or urban legand?

[rd_macgregor]

We had 2- 8 gauge industrial shotguns. They shot a quarter pound of lead. It was not uncommon to go through 4 or 5 cases at a time.(250 to a case) One shooting one loading,you could shoot out a lot of lead. If the chemistry was not exactly right it would form rings in the kiln which was 12 foot in dia. and 390 feet long,we had 3 kilns. The rings had to be shot out to allow the product to free fall as the kiln turned. I have seen balls in the kiln that formed in the back and were at least 8 foot in dia. We had to bust them up before they dropped in the cooler. Sometimes it seemed like we shot 2 or3 times a shift and sometimes we went weeks with out shooting. Our kilns were cement kilns,the lime was made into cement. The temp was different at certain parts of the kiln,over 3000 degrees,in the middle,about 1200 where it dropped in the cooler. The exhaust temps were lowered by spray water to as low as 400 degrees.

So, does this mean that the resulting cement is contaminated with lead pellets?
FWIW, my brother used to (and maybe still does) sprinkle lime in his outhouse to help keep down the smell and flies. I don't know whether it turns excrement to concrete, and I'm not interested in delving into it further.
BOB

 

[rd_macgregor]

Now for some reading, and maybe another item for the old bag o' tricks!

@wampum: On account of the heat and noise I figured it was the closest thing to **** on Earth. QUOTE]

I would have voted for a steel or lead refinery (both of which I have toured), but maybe a lime kiln would qualify, too.
BOB

 

[wampum]

In that intense heat most of the lead is destroyed. But I imagine that there are trace elements,as in anything. The amount shot was several minutes a day,and sometimes you did not shoot for weeks. Making about 185 to 200 tons an hour probably reduced what was left of the lead to a trace element. If not I am sure the EPA would have fined us for it.

 

[krackerjack9]

WE use lime all the time to get trucks out of the mud and I mean buried in mud. Way cheaper than tow truck and awhole lot easier just toss a few shovels on the tires and ground and watch your truck crawl out.:thumbsup:

 

[roamerr]

This is definitely an interesting thread. I have a rock driveway that really needed some large base rock but instead has 4 inches of fine rock from a local asphault plant. Approx 1/2 of the drive has base the other half I added does not. Worked great this summer but the wet winter and large trucks (building a house) has made the non-base rock area soft. Can I add lime to firm it up? Sounds like I could just spread it on top and let the tires push it to the mud....

 

[bob19]

I have a stable and the area outside the stable doors is nothing but mud when it rains or snow melts. My best solution is probably having someone dig it up and put down a geo-textile material, the proper gravel, rocks, etc. in and then put material down like what is in an arena.

When it is really wet, the horse's hooves go down about 8" in the mud. I am sure it is uncomfortable for them.

But, after seeing this thread, would it be advisable to use many bags of lime to see if it could be dried up some? I had never heard of doing this before and I don't know if horse hooves walking through lime would be dangerous to the hooves or not.

Just curious.

Bob

 

[MarkV]

This is definitely an interesting thread. I have a rock driveway that really needed some large base rock but instead has 4 inches of fine rock from a local asphault plant. Approx 1/2 of the drive has base the other half I added does not. Worked great this summer but the wet winter and large trucks (building a house) has made the non-base rock area soft. Can I add lime to firm it up? Sounds like I could just spread it on top and let the tires push it to the mud....

Lime may help for the short term but from my experience with a drive you are talking long term and you need more gravel. When I built, in the country, the first time gravel was one of the bigger surprises. The first couple of years it seemed like someone was stealing it during the night. After adding more than expected the first 3 years to build the proper base it has lasted well without additional gravel.

MarkV

 

[RadarTech]

Bob,
I can't say for sure--
but I did find this during my research..
Mud Fever: The Animal Files

when I went back to find that link I found this:
Home


hmm..

I wonder how much it costs...


J

 

[bob19]

RadarTech: Thanks very much. I am going to contact the stable grid place and get a quote for their product. I am sure it will not be cheap, but if it stops the mud, it will be worth it.

Also, I will be on the alert for the mud problems. I had no idea it could be so destructive. But, it does not surprise me.

Bob

 

[two_bit_score]

RadarTech: Thanks very much. I am going to contact the stable grid place and get a quote for their product. I am sure it will not be cheap, but if it stops the mud, it will be worth it.

Also, I will be on the alert for the mud problems. I had no idea it could be so destructive. But, it does not surprise me.

Bob

Bob, please let us know how that works out for you. It looks like an interesting concept. Good luck!

 

[RadarTech]

RadarTech: Thanks very much. I am going to contact the stable grid place and get a quote for their product. I am sure it will not be cheap, but if it stops the mud, it will be worth it.

Also, I will be on the alert for the mud problems. I had no idea it could be so destructive. But, it does not surprise me.

Bob

your welcome..

if you could, please drop us a line with the price....

It would be interesting if it works as well as advertised....


J

 

[Barry Bowen]

This little trick is not for a mud hole in your yard. The lime they are recommending in that article will kill grass and basically make the surface rock hard. Aglime will NOT do the same thing. High cal aglime will work to open the soil up and allow the water to go deeper. Several years worth of applications and you can improve how fast a spot like that dries out, but it will not dry the spot up so that you can do something like run stuff over it. Type N and Type S are actually and technically cement. Put cement down in the mud and it will set up just like the guy in Texas had in the parking lot, and that is what you will have something as hard as a parking lot. If you need a parking lot in your yard go ahead, but if you want to grow grass, I can guarantee you will not grow anything in that spot any more ever again.