Tires Loaded Front Tires Resist Tipping?

[Ledgemere Farm]

Are you talking about loaded tires + an FEL? I would be worried about putting extra stress on my axle and MFWD. Sounds like a good recipe to break something. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

 

[beenthere]

Henro.
You are correct in your thinking.

 

[PineRidge]

<font color="blue"> Henro.
You are correct in your thinking.
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Please don't tell him that.... he will ask another question /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

I would think that by the time the front axle hits it's stop the extra weight doesn't really matter because it's going over anyway.

 

[Lazy]

Hi
I have tipped over several times when I was loaded.. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Larry_T]

The more weight you have on the ground the better,especiall when you lift bucket up high. I think you are right. Larry

 

[Theowegian]

Interesting thread.
So, is it possible that IF the front tires are filled, then maybe you dont need suitcase weights on the front, when using a rear attachment like a rotary cutter? Assuming that there is no FEL attached, of course.

Just wondering....
dwight

 

[Henro]

OK...here is how I see it at the moment.

Adding weight by loading the front tires probably will not cause a tractor to tip more easily.

In the case of a potential back flip, the added weight will be 100% beneficial.

In the case of a side slope, that tilts 90 degrees perpendicular to the frame of the tractor, the extra weight of the front tires, wheels and axle probably does not help until the axle bumps the stop on the down hill side.

At any point between directly backwards and 90 degrees perpendicular to the frame, the added weight of the front tires, wheels and axle will have some beneficial effect, which will lessen the more the slope angle approaches a line drawn between the operator’s shoulders.

The weight of the tires, wheels and axles on the front will do nothing to prevent a hand-stand wheelie…

Please let me get my head protector thingee done before we put my tractor on the 45 degree slope with Bob S in the driver's seat... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Henro]

<font color="blue"> It is very possible that, depending on the steepness of the slope, the C-O-G could be below the loaded tires that are on the high side of the slope and the loaded tires could actually increase the chance of a rollover.
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Bob, I don't think this is possible. However, it does bring up a very interesting concept. Variable C-O-G position!

We probably should reserve this for a seperate thread though. I'll bet it could be proven that as the tractor rotates about the front axle pivot point, that the center of gravity of the tractor's mass changes relative position within the total mass.

Junkman, where are you when we need you???? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Slamfire]

Me too, Lazy. I thought I'd set a world record one night in Boston, when the whole paddy wagon tipped over. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Doesn't the stabilization of the loaded uphill tires, get degraded by the weight of the downhill tires?

 

[BB_TX]

Henro-You are making my brain hurt. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif