loader problems

[ovrszd]

For "simple" people like me, here's how I know if I'm in float. If when you let go of the joystick it does not return to center position, it's detented in float. If you let go of the joystick when it's simply in the lower position it springs back to center.

No drawings needed.

 

[Dave M7040]

Better yet, what is the hydraulic pressure going to your FEL!
Buy a $30 gauge and tell us the pressure readings.

This one was put together at an independent hydraulic shop.

Many posters on this and the orange tractor forum, have been encouraged to check their relief valve pressure. They took a pressure measurement by disconnecting a hydraulic line going to the loader cylinders and plugging in the gauge. They then were pleasantly surprised that the performance of the FEL on their nearly new tractor was sub standard. A simple adjustment and the FEL performed as designed.

If I knew your psi number I would understand the power of your brakes. Don't check the pressure on a rear remote but the FEL quick connects.

Dave M70401

 

[Dave M7040]

Are you in float mode by some chance? Under most normal conditions, yes it should lift it...

-Dave

"Being a pessimist is great. You can't lose. Either you end up being right...or you are pleasantly surprised."

Thanks for that comment. You made me laugh!.
Sometimes we all take things far too seriously when giving or receiving an opinion on our tractors.

Dave M7040

 

[JWR]

JWR, I did not give advice based on theory.
I gave advice based on personal experience with my own (New) 2501DT.
My brakes work. They work so well as to prevent tractor movement on a hill & my loader cannot overcome the brakes when trying to lift the front axle off the ground.
I CAN lift the front axle a good 12 to 13 inches with the rear brakes disengaged.
I had to relieve the friction at the pivot point (rear axle).
Perhaps with time & wear, the loader will be able to overpower the rear brakes.

Ironsights that makes two of us. I spoke from experience as well. Art's M6060 is well over 5000 lbs, closer 6000 as equipped. Your 2501 weighs around 2500lb plus attachments. Mine weighs a paltry 1600 lbs., under 2000lb soaking wet. For sure my brakes are lousy to no good and always have been. There is very little comparable among these 3 drastically different machines. The brand is about it. Mechanically, the FEL lifting the tractor does not need to overcome the brakes at all. Lock them solidly in place. The only thing that will happen when you lift the tractor with the front end loader with rear brakes locked is that the rear tires will rotate a very few degrees to the rear. That scrapes the bucket those same few inches along the ground toward the rear. Not a big deal at all. If yours refused to do that it, is extremely likely that your bucket dug in enough, under the weight of the front of the tractor, to stop the scooting toward the rear. Could very well be, with the end result exactly as you said. What happens depends on the surface the bucket is on, the weight of the tractor and the relative strength of the FEL hydraulics -- assuming the brakes are locked solid. Will be interesting to hear what Art finds in his case with the 6060.

 

[JWR]

hi i have a m6060 kubota with a la 1154 loader on it when i tried to put the loader all the way down to lift up the frount of tractor it does not lift it not sure why on any other tractor i had i could lift the front end off the ground any help thanks art

We are dying to hear what you found after hearing all of us chatter. One last question: Did the engine seem to be loading down when you tried to lift the front end ? If it did (or not) not that sheds much light on your circumstance.

 

[Egon]

Put a couple of blocks under the bucket and then see if it lifts the front of the tractor.

 

[JWR]

Put a couple of blocks under the bucket and then see if it lifts the front of the tractor.

Agree. Man we sure could use a "Like" button in these forums.

 

[civilian]

Agree. Man we sure could use a "Like" button in these forums.

and a "Thanks" button. Jon

 

[dstig1]

-Dave

"Being a pessimist is great. You can't lose. Either you end up being right...or you are pleasantly surprised."

Thanks for that comment. You made me laugh!.
Sometimes we all take things far too seriously when giving or receiving an opinion on our tractors.

Dave M7040

Thanks :dance1: One of my favorites. I told that to a co-worker one time and it took him 10 min to regain his composure. Caught him just at the right time, right after Murphy struck...

Now if only the OP would make a return visit to let us know what he found...

 

[Dave M7040]

No reply after many suggestions.... almost wants me to suggest to the forum to have a way to let people know of this poster next time they come for help.
We all need the feedback from the person with the problem to know which suggestion was the more relevant and useful. We all learn this way!

Dave M7040