Loader Vs, Big Dirt Scoop?

[Anonymous Poster]

Not for nothing...

I wouldn't even consider $800. for a rear dirt scoop...

I don't know what the loader cost for a 4100...{$2200-2600?}...

but it has to add greatly to the resale value of your tractor and increase your "usage factor" a hundred fold over any other implement... /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

For a few hundred dollars to play around with... ok get the dirt scoop... but I really think you're "over estimating" the usage of this without adding "money/weights" to the front of your tractor to hold it down...

This is another one of those things you just have to do and experience for yourself and finally determine... "Ah... that's what they meant..." /w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif

 

[MikeFLA]

Nuru,

I have to agree with what Mike S. has said about the value of a loader. My neighbor has one on his Kubota and before I got my tractor I used it.

Having said that, I currently use a 36" Dirt Scoop on my B7500 and have really come to appreciate it's <font color=blue>"value"</font color=blue>. It literally does <font color=red>"for me"</font color=red> 75% of what an FEL could do at 8% of the cost.

My only wish it that it was wider. At least enough to cover my rear tire tracks.

 

[Nuru]

MikeS, thanks for the input. I do understand the rear facing stress, and that is why I won't get a rear blade for snow-plowing, I just went ahead and bought a front blade. Now yes a loader does have the advantage of being much more versatile, but unless I get some extra money or the price suddenly drops, i may have to make a short-term decision and get one of those scoops.

 

[Nuru]

John; In the NE, the 410 cost $2500+. I would not buy the $800 dollar version of the scoop, unless it came with the Hydro, making similar to a forklift. The 36" scoops cost approximately $300 - $350. Weights, I already got the weights to hold the frontend down when using it. Yes I thoroughly understand the utility of the loader. But again , I am just thinking about which way to go and all the inputs are very helpful!

 

[CSAW]

I have never used a rear scoop, however, It would not do most of the things that I use my fel for. I use it alot for loading things into the back of a truck. Lifting things higher than a scoop will. Pushing trees over, dumping things over the fence, etc. It can also get you out if you are stuck.

IMHO I believe you will be much happier if you use the scoop money towards a loader.

 

[TerryinMD]

Nuru,

This subject has been bantered about quite a few times. Shelling out somewhere between $2.2-2.5K plus installation is a big decision. You will never regret it if you bought the FEL.

As most have pointed out, the FEL is probably one of the most versatile implements one can have on their tractor. The 410 is easy to attach and remove. Put on a toothbar and you'll be looking for projects. It's gotten to the point where my wife is beginning to suggest work for me!! /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif And, of course, neighbors always need a hand doing something!!

However, I can understand your dilemma.... when and where to spend/justify/cajole/promise/beg that much money. The CFO and I did a quick cost/benefit analysis. For an extra $30 or so a month, we are getting lots of time consuming work completed in a matter of hours instead of days.

Terry

 

[Nuru]

CSAW, thanks for the advice. Hmmm, help get me out if i get stuck. That is definietley a consideration to ponder. what else do I want to use this for!

 

[Nuru]

Terry, Hello, Yes I know exactly what you mean, my SCFO (Supreme CFO), gets real irritated when I happen to slip up and mention something like the loader in cost. She knows i need the MMM, but that loader, well she is not convinced, and that leads to mucho consternation if i goahead and buy it - just like when i bought the Monitor Lizard (at 2ft) and told her it was full grown (grows to 6 - 7ft). she still gets on me about that one (lizard threw-up a mouse and that really stunk up the house).

However, just reviewing the messages on the board, I guess I should bail and get a small scoop now for a cheap price and save up my pennies for a FEL in 2003.

 

[billfires]

Nuru, is there a possibility of selling the front blade to help with the FEL purchase? You could get FEL and in the future pick up a rear blade. I'll echo what's been said already, the FEL is the most used implement.

Bill C

 

[TresCrows]

Ditto what Mike says. Many of the uses for a FEL have nothing to do with scooping dirt or mulch, things like lifting heavy objects like drill presses and railroad ties, unloading a 500 lb ball and burlap tree from my truck, toting plants and tools such as my saws to the work site, or hauling firewood and the one I like best---after sawing and cutting out brush and dead trees and cutting them up into a decent size I then use the FEL to (and boxblade) bulldoze them and compact them into a pile. I was the envy of the neighborhood the first time I collected a huge pile of limbs and such and pushed into it with the BX loader, all four tires starting spinning and the little 'bota charged into the pile snaping limbs and branches like tooth pics. It was impressive to all who beheld the sight and the 2410 really slams into a brush pile with authority just as your 4100 would also. I go in low with the loader and then raise it and keep the bucket level and shove and smash the stuff into a compact pile for burning, some of my piles are as big as a small house--no kidding.
J