Loading Regulations by State?

rmonio · Jul 8, 2005

The fellow at Northern Tool and Equipment that I spoke to told me that MNDOT was frowning on latchover binders and was recommending rachets... I paid 25$ a unit at Northern when I bought them the other day.

-Bob

LarryRB · Jul 8, 2005

they probably have changed the binder regs along with minimum chain requirements.. I just happen to have used the old style binders for 30 or so years and are accustomed to them. If CT weigh station tells me to change, I'll have to change, no sense arguing with them, you'll lose anyway...

tomnky · Jul 8, 2005

Ain't that the truth!!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

DK35vince · Jul 8, 2005

Larry,
Nothing was mentioned to me by the DOT about which binders could be used.
I am used to the old style lever binders myself. I was using them when the DOT checked my trailer/load.
They warned me about needing a chain and binder on each corner and over the bucket. Never said anything to me about using the old style binders.

DK35vince · Jul 8, 2005

( Ok. I'm sold. I'm going to get my 20' chains cut in half and go with 4 binders from now on. Since my BoxBlade and Loader are secured to the tractor, do they need chains and binders also then?

-Bob )

Bob,
My understanding was Yes, that was the newer law being inforced.
1 chain and binder on each corner of the tractor.
A chain on the bucket and a chain on any implement.

On my tractor and 10,000# trailer I generally just use 1 chain/binder on each corner and go !!

rmonio · Jul 12, 2005

Well, I'm going to stick with one chain and binder on each corner and leave it at that. I've been monitoring the trucks and haulers around here and that's the best I've seen - even on the bigger rigs....

-Bob

dmccarty · Jul 13, 2005

Does anyone know the reasoning behind the requirement for the tie down on the FEL and BH/implements?

I kinda can see tieing down an implement on the 3PH. Sorta. I guess the chain is supposed to keep the implement from bounching up and down? But what is my BH going to do that requires a chain? The only thing I can think of is the boom pin failing allowing the hoe to swing from side to side. What movement is the chain supposed to stop on a BH.

Same question for the FEL. The FEL ain't falling off the tractor. So what is the chain supposed to hold down? The bucket? Keep the bucket from moving up and down?

Later,
Dan

GeneD14 · Jul 13, 2005

( Same question for the FEL. The FEL ain't falling off the tractor. So what is the chain supposed to hold down? The bucket? Keep the bucket from moving up and down?
)
 On larger equipment this becomes a bigger issue. If a backhoe arm swings sideways it can throw the load off balance or strike other vehicles.
It is very common when transporting heavy equipment less than an hour or so away to just leave it running, especially in the winter time. As the trailer bounces down the highway the controls get jarred and a loader bucket or backhoe arm, etc... can raise up and hit wires, bridges, branches, or raise the center of gravity to the point of being unsafe.
DOT regulations seem like overkill but I'm sure that these type of problems have been repeat issues over the years.

Jrrcorp · Jul 17, 2005

Last week i hauled a 8000lb JD 110 backhoe with my Ford E-350 extended van. I had four new chains with lever type binders on four corners and one ratchet type on the hoe. While going 42 MPH the trialer started fixhtailing violenly throwing the van left into oncomming traffic, then back to the right again and again as I desperatly kept counter steering and applying the brakes. My 10,000 lb trailer has electric drag brakes on both axels and load leveling torsion bars. After a half mile of the scariest thing I have ever been through, it came to a stop and we were safe with no damage to anything or person. After reading posts here I checked my owners manual and found out that my gross vehicle and trailer weight were 2 tons over the capacity of my vehicle. Those chains and binders stopped that hoe from flying off into oncoming traffic and killing someone. I don't know why it fish tailled like that but without proper chaining I might be in jall right now for vehicular manslautter! Don't take any chances. Wierd things happen sometimes and it only takes once to end your life or someone elses!

LarryRB · Jul 18, 2005

you didn't have enough tounge weight. I have a L 48, heavier than the 110 by almost a thousand pounds. If I don't load it just right, (tounge heavy) my trailer whips me all ove the road too,,