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[rmonio]

The fellow at Northern Tool and Equipment that I spoke to told me that MNDOT was frowning on latchover binders and was recommending rachets... I paid 25$ a unit at Northern when I bought them the other day.

-Bob

 

[LarryRB]

they probably have changed the binder regs along with minimum chain requirements.. I just happen to have used the old style binders for 30 or so years and are accustomed to them. If CT weigh station tells me to change, I'll have to change, no sense arguing with them, you'll lose anyway...

 

[tomnky]

Ain't that the truth!!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[DK35vince]

Larry,
Nothing was mentioned to me by the DOT about which binders could be used.
I am used to the old style lever binders myself. I was using them when the DOT checked my trailer/load.
They warned me about needing a chain and binder on each corner and over the bucket. Never said anything to me about using the old style binders.

 

[DK35vince]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Ok. I'm sold. I'm going to get my 20' chains cut in half and go with 4 binders from now on. Since my BoxBlade and Loader are secured to the tractor, do they need chains and binders also then?

-Bob )</font>

Bob,
My understanding was Yes, that was the newer law being inforced.
1 chain and binder on each corner of the tractor.
A chain on the bucket and a chain on any implement.

On my tractor and 10,000# trailer I generally just use 1 chain/binder on each corner and go !!

 

[rmonio]

Well, I'm going to stick with one chain and binder on each corner and leave it at that. I've been monitoring the trucks and haulers around here and that's the best I've seen - even on the bigger rigs....

-Bob

 

[dmccarty]

Does anyone know the reasoning behind the requirement for the tie down on the FEL and BH/implements?

I kinda can see tieing down an implement on the 3PH. Sorta. I guess the chain is supposed to keep the implement from bounching up and down? But what is my BH going to do that requires a chain? The only thing I can think of is the boom pin failing allowing the hoe to swing from side to side. What movement is the chain supposed to stop on a BH.

Same question for the FEL. The FEL ain't falling off the tractor. So what is the chain supposed to hold down? The bucket? Keep the bucket from moving up and down?

Later,
Dan

 

[GeneD14]

</font><font color="blueclass=small">( Same question for the FEL. The FEL ain't falling off the tractor. So what is the chain supposed to hold down? The bucket? Keep the bucket from moving up and down?
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<font color="black"> On larger equipment this becomes a bigger issue. If a backhoe arm swings sideways it can throw the load off balance or strike other vehicles.
It is very common when transporting heavy equipment less than an hour or so away to just leave it running, especially in the winter time. As the trailer bounces down the highway the controls get jarred and a loader bucket or backhoe arm, etc... can raise up and hit wires, bridges, branches, or raise the center of gravity to the point of being unsafe.
DOT regulations seem like overkill but I'm sure that these type of problems have been repeat issues over the years.

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[Jrrcorp]

Last week i hauled a 8000lb JD 110 backhoe with my Ford E-350 extended van. I had four new chains with lever type binders on four corners and one ratchet type on the hoe. While going 42 MPH the trialer started fixhtailing violenly throwing the van left into oncomming traffic, then back to the right again and again as I desperatly kept counter steering and applying the brakes. My 10,000 lb trailer has electric drag brakes on both axels and load leveling torsion bars. After a half mile of the scariest thing I have ever been through, it came to a stop and we were safe with no damage to anything or person. After reading posts here I checked my owners manual and found out that my gross vehicle and trailer weight were 2 tons over the capacity of my vehicle. Those chains and binders stopped that hoe from flying off into oncoming traffic and killing someone. I don't know why it fish tailled like that but without proper chaining I might be in jall right now for vehicular manslautter! Don't take any chances. Wierd things happen sometimes and it only takes once to end your life or someone elses!

 

[LarryRB]

you didn't have enough tounge weight. I have a L 48, heavier than the 110 by almost a thousand pounds. If I don't load it just right, (tounge heavy) my trailer whips me all ove the road too,,

 

[txhawg]

What is considered a corner? I attach two chains to a clevis attached to my drawbar. Is that good enough for two corners?

 

[DK35vince]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( What is considered a corner? I attach two chains to a clevis attached to my drawbar. Is that good enough for two corners? )</font>

As far as I know, Yes.

 

[LBrown59]

<font color="blue">After reading posts here I checked my owners manual and found out that my gross vehicle and trailer weight were 2 tons over the capacity of my vehicle.
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Like I said you don't need a beefy vehicle to tow it you need a vehicle that will stop it.
Just goes to show you can't depend on a properly equipped proper capacity trailer with proper brakes alone to stop it.

 

[Highbeam]

"Just goes to show you can't depend on a properly equipped proper capacity trailer with proper brakes alone to stop it. "

I didn't get that at all. I got that the load was too heavy and not loaded correctly to provide enough tongue weight and prevent sway. Nothing to do with the capacity of the trailer or ability of the trailer brakes to stop the load. More like operator error. The fact that he took a half mile to get everything under control and off the road was due to how he handled the dangerous situation with success.

 

[Boomerang1]

Each state has the right to set their own regulations as long as they meet or exceed the federal regs. They can be more strict but not less strict than the federal regs. Fed regs state under 10,000 lbs wheeled vehicle you can use 2 chains and 2 binders total. Also you are supposed to stop after the first 25 miles or 1/2 hour and check your load.

I have read a few posts where people say 20' chains are too heavy. I carry two 20' chains in one hand and two binders in the other without any problems. That's because I eat my Wheaties every morning!

 

[RobertN]

The explanation I got from CHP Commercial division, is that people were taking tractors from job to job, and leaving them running. The trailer bounces a little, the loader or backhoe lever jiggles, and now the FEL or BH is moving...

They claimed this had been the reason for bridge, overpass, and powerline damage. There aint no way a FEL is going to raise and hit an overpass unless the tractor is running... At least if it is chained, it shouldn't raise.

The regs should say "no running vehicles during transport"...