Local Kubota dealer not honoring warranty

   / Local Kubota dealer not honoring warranty #101  
Just as a side note, this seems to be happening across all lines of commerce. As the internet shops compete with the brick and mortar shops on price, this seems to be the only way for the B&M shops to fight back. Astronomy is a side hobby for me, and I'm currently reading a thread where by a local telescope shop is refusing service on any telescope that was not bought through their shop.
 
   / Local Kubota dealer not honoring warranty #102  
I believe the general theme here is that dealerships are caught in the middle. It's the manufacturer who is the real root of the problem. If they would properly compensate the dealer for work performed, this would probably never come up.
Warranties are sales enticers for customers on a high dollar purchase. If dealers really don't want to honor it, which was also the general theme of dealers who chimed in on the thread, then it's false advertising by misrepresentation.

HP
 
   / Local Kubota dealer not honoring warranty #103  
This has all been very enlightening.

I recently bought from a few hundred miles away. I shopped around, and really wanted to stick with my local dealer since I bought my first tractor from him (as well as a rotary cutter and box blade). He was a little higher than some, but close to most. I pretty much knew I was going to buy my second tractor from him.

I decided that I would try Barlows, and just get an idea of what their price was like. In the end, they saved me about 3K on the tractor. Now to me, if my local dealer had been 1K in range, then I would have still gone local without a second thought, but 3K was a big difference to me on a small tractor. I thought about the service and warranty real hard.

I decided to go with Barlow's, and I knew the risk I was taking. I sent an email to my dealer explaining that I had found a tractor that better aligned with my budget needs, and hoped that I could still frequent there for supplies and equipment, and was not burning bridges. If I did burn the bridge, then I apologized in advance. I was kind of hoping he would have responded back with a second offer, but he didn't. That was tough for me, and I did not even know at the time all this information that has been exposed in this thread.

As it turned out, I did have a few small issues with the Barlow's tractor. However, to their credit, they sent me the parts free of charge to replace anything, and I did the labor. I don't mind doing the labor, since then I know exactly how the work was performed. Brady was very responsive to any issues I had. I think he realizes the situation, and tries his best to make it work out for the customers the best he can. I have no complaints and have heard nothing but good things about them.

My local dealer did reply back, and although I could tell he was disappointed, he pretty much said they would be there if I needed them in the future. They would not be able to do the free things like pickup and steam clean, but certainly there for normal work. I told him that was understandable, and I have been back to his store several times since then to buy supplies. Last week I was there and bought a new leaf blower. I plan to but a rotary tiller soon from him as well. He seems fine, and I hope it stays that way. He is a really nice person, and now I really feel guilty, but I am a pushover for people's feelings.

In retrospect, my only regret is that I should have been more direct with my local dealer, saying if you can meet me somewhere in the middle we have a deal. But, I think it all turned out ok in the long run. If I can get the parts under warranty, I like doing the work myself (within my limited abilities that is!)

That's my take on it.

I don't negotiate with the dealers until I get each of their best prices. I make sure each dealer is pricing the same exact unit and to give me their best price right up front. Once I get the prices I see who is in line and who isn't. I then take the best deal (not always the lowest price) and finish negotiating from there. I don't tell the other dealers the price from the competeing dealers till after I finalize the deal. They don't need to know it until they are ruled out in which I then tell them so they know where their price stood in relation to the other dealers and hopefully that helps them in some way.
 
   / Local Kubota dealer not honoring warranty #104  
I don't negotiate with the dealers until I get each of their best prices. I make sure each dealer is pricing the same exact unit and to give me their best price right up front. Once I get the prices I see who is in line and who isn't. I then take the best deal (not always the lowest price) and finish negotiating from there. I don't tell the other dealers the price from the competeing dealers till after I finalize the deal. They don't need to know it until they are ruled out in which I then tell them so they know where their price stood in relation to the other dealers and hopefully that helps them in some way.

YES! That's what the free market is all about. Seems to be forgotten with some dealers who take it personal you didn't choose to take a worse deal from them. Dealerships need to stay competitive, not just assume they can ask what they want and YOU will just have to pay it.
 
   / Local Kubota dealer not honoring warranty #105  
Cars or tractors - truly good dealers are very rare. Look at the difference between Wallace/Messicks posts vs some of the sore losers. Wallace and Messicks are taking care of the customers regardless and growing their business.

the other guys:

"I dont make enough on a warranty job" "you didn't buy it from me"
very short term outlooks and frankly very poor business strategies. How anyone that runs or owns a business could ever try to be adversarial to a potential customer is beyond me.

I know several car dealers. the ones that truly love their customers and provide them with great service have MUCH bigger houses.

To the OP and anyone else that is worried about warranty coverage: If the local dealer will not honor the warranty, figure out the dollar amount of the repair and take them to small claims court. even the very poor dealers wouldn't want to go to court. They would not be able to explain to a judge why they wont honor the warranty if they are a franchised dealer. The courts always side with consumers and the judge will not care if the business is losing money on one repair. Not to mention the bad press they would get....
 
   / Local Kubota dealer not honoring warranty #106  
Just as a side note, this seems to be happening across all lines of commerce. As the internet shops compete with the brick and mortar shops on price, this seems to be the only way for the B&M shops to fight back. Astronomy is a side hobby for me, and I'm currently reading a thread where by a local telescope shop is refusing service on any telescope that was not bought through their shop.

Same with Garmin products bought on Flea-Bay. No warranty, no maps.

'Astronomy' is sort of a hobby for me too. Spying on the neighbors with bino's......
 
   / Local Kubota dealer not honoring warranty #107  
YES! That's what the free market is all about. Seems to be forgotten with some dealers who take it personal you didn't choose to take a worse deal from them. Dealerships need to stay competitive, not just assume they can ask what they want and YOU will just have to pay it.

Now that is interesting, my dealer said "that is what the free market is all about" when I went elsewhere. :) Again, he is a good guy / local dealer.

I had no idea all this warranty stuff was such an issue for most dealers. My local dealer would work on it even though I did not purchase from him, he just could not take the pickup/deliver costs for free. I think that is fair.
 
   / Local Kubota dealer not honoring warranty #108  
When I bought my B2400 in 99 it had a growling noise in the front 4x4 drive system. I took it to Coleman Implement and they would not fix it under warranty since I did not buy it there. I argued with them and they refused.

I contacted Kubota and bitched to them and they would or could not force Coleman to work on the machine. I ended up hauling it to another Kubota representative and they fixed it under warranty.
 
   / Local Kubota dealer not honoring warranty #109  
When I bought my B2400 in 99 it had a growling noise in the front 4x4 drive system. I took it to Coleman Implement and they would not fix it under warranty since I did not buy it there. I argued with them and they refused.

I contacted Kubota and bitched to them and they would or could not force Coleman to work on the machine. I ended up hauling it to another Kubota representative and they fixed it under warranty.
this has not turned out to be a massive ad for Kubota or its dealer network- as i said before not sure i will be buy anymore big orange in the near future----very disappointed in this thread results- i truly thought that a factory product warrenty was just that and could be used at any licensed dealership----apparently not worth the paper written on in most cases----makes it tough on the really good dealership like MESSICKS AND BARLOWS who unfortunately are not close to where i live-
 
   / Local Kubota dealer not honoring warranty #110  
this has not turned out to be a massive ad for Kubota or its dealer network- as i said before not sure i will be buy anymore big orange in the near future----very disappointed in this thread results- i truly thought that a factory product warrenty was just that and could be used at any licensed dealership----apparently not worth the paper written on in most cases----makes it tough on the really good dealership like MESSICKS AND BARLOWS who unfortunately are not close to where i live-

I would say that's a reasonable position ... as long as you're sure big orange is the only one with these problems.
 

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