Longevity Welding - MIG TIG Stick Multi Process Welders and Plasma Cutters

[deereman75]

Deereman75 I know you were having trouble with breaker tripping with the old buzzbox, have you taken the new rig up to the threshold of breaker tripping yet? or do you find the power saving of the inverter design a help in area?

James K0UA

I havnt took it up high enough to trip it yet. I was welding at 130 amps for a bit, which would often trip the breaker with the tombstone. It was fine. Today I will crank it up as high as I can until I trip it.

 

[Haywire]

It looked a little cheesy because it had grooves only on the bottom, and a flat piece on the top.

That's how my Lenco is. Works well except that the only place it will hold 1/16 is straight out the end.

Ian

 

[deereman75]

That's how my Lenco is. Works well except that the only place it will hold 1/16 is straight out the end.

Ian

Ok so it seems that is kind of normal. As I said it works perfectly fine, I like it.

 

[Furu]

Deereman75 I know you were having trouble with breaker tripping with the old buzzbox, have you taken the new rig up to the threshold of breaker tripping yet? or do you find the power saving of the inverter design a help in area?

James K0UA

The manual does not state what the input amp requirement is. What would you expect with the inverter technology is the input amp requirement? I was thinking a 50 amp circuit is probably required but a 40 amp might work. Depends on the output voltage at 250 amps and the losses in the inverter. Any ideas?
What is your circuit that you are using deereman75?

 

[Haywire]

Everlast's PA200 draws 37a at 200, so if the designs are similar, 250 should draw about 46a.

 

[deereman75]

The manual does not state what the input amp requirement is. What would you expect with the inverter technology is the input amp requirement? I was thinking a 50 amp circuit is probably required but a 40 amp might work. Depends on the output voltage at 250 amps and the losses in the inverter. Any ideas?
What is your circuit that you are using deereman75?

I am stuck with 30 amps. It works perfect, I just dont turn it up all the way. The biggest rod I normaly use is a 7018 1/8. For those I have more than enough power with my breaker. I am not sure how many amps it draws maxed out. When it stops raining, I will see how many amps I can get out of it before I trip the breaker.

 

[Haywire]

The highest setting I've used on mine was 180a with 5/32" 6011 to burn the center out of a couple rims before I got the plasma. Highest I've used welding is 130a with 1/8" 7014 or 7018.

Ian

 

[k0ua]

The highest setting I've used on mine was 180a with 5/32" 6011 to burn the center out of a couple rims before I got the plasma. Highest I've used welding is 130a with 1/8" 7014 or 7018.

Ian

Thats the thing, I never seem to need anything more than about 125 with 1/8 7018 maybe 135 with 1/8 7014.. I have never had my PA160 maxed out, I just dont weld things thick enough to need much more.

James K0UA

 

[longevity]

I am stuck with 30 amps. It works perfect, I just dont turn it up all the way. The biggest rod I normaly use is a 7018 1/8. For those I have more than enough power with my breaker. I am not sure how many amps it draws maxed out. When it stops raining, I will see how many amps I can get out of it before I trip the breaker.

From the top of my head, it will draw 49amps max at 250amp setting on the machine. Do not quote me though. We test our machines in Hayward at a 50amp breaker.

 

[Shield Arc]

in Hayward.

Oh, home sweet home!

 

[deereman75]

Well its offical. The longevity stickweld 250 is the best welder I have ever used. With 7018 I can jamb the rod in the puddle and it makes very nice smooth beads. With the 6010 port, it burns 6011 very well. I just have no burn a few more pounds of 6011/6010 to get that nice stack of dimes look. I only have maybe 2# of 6011 left, so when I run out I will go to air liquide and get some 6010. One cool thing I saw at my local tool store (they sell air liquide rods and wire as well) was 3/32 7024. I didnt think they even made those. I will have to grab 5# next time I am there.

 

[k0ua]

I knew you would like it, your welding results just went up about 3 notches didn't they. I am telling you guys if you want better results and nicer looking beads, get a DC inverter welder.

James K0UA

 

[deereman75]

I knew you would like it, your welding results just went up about 3 notches didn't they. I am telling you guys if you want better results and nicer looking beads, get a DC inverter welder.

James K0UA

Exactly. After I burn a few more # of rods, I will write up a real review. Well see how it works with 6010 and 7024.

 

[Haywire]

I've never even seen any 7024 in any size. Did read that it was for flat/fillet welding only and required a lot of power. What is it's purpose?

 

[deereman75]

I've never even seen any 7024 in any size. Did read that it was for flat/fillet welding only and required a lot of power. What is it's purpose?

Oh ya I know all about 7024 (spent about a day reading about them on weldingweb) 7024 was mainly used for fab work before mig was around. It will lay down a big, smooth, fat weld, very easily. I have never tried it, since I had only seen it in 1/8 or bigger in 50# boxes. Now that I saw it in a 5# box, I cant help but get some to try out. The 3/32 would be nice because it wouldnt need as much amperage. I will see if my longevity can get enough amperage out of the 30 amp breaker to run 1/8 7024. If it can, I would get the 1/8 ones.

 

[Shield Arc]

What is it's purpose?

It's extremely fast! Meant for flat, and horizontal welding. I've been stuck where it was the only rod on hand, and I had to run it vertical up hill. Talk about move fast!:laughing:

They are all probably dead by now, but guys who use to build tanks before wire feeds came out would set on a little cart and run one rod after another, never lifting their hood. They would have one hand full of rods, the other hand holding the stinger.

 

[longevity]

Well its offical. The longevity stickweld 250 is the best welder I have ever used. With 7018 I can jamb the rod in the puddle and it makes very nice smooth beads. With the 6010 port, it burns 6011 very well. I just have no burn a few more pounds of 6011/6010 to get that nice stack of dimes look. I only have maybe 2# of 6011 left, so when I run out I will go to air liquide and get some 6010. One cool thing I saw at my local tool store (they sell air liquide rods and wire as well) was 3/32 7024. I didnt think they even made those. I will have to grab 5# next time I am there.

Deereman! Very cool! I am glad you are liking the unit. Let me know if you get chance to post some pics. The StickWeld is a very popular model for us! With the special we ran, there will be a few more reviews up shortly!

I am hoping to get someone into a plasma cutter!

 

[longevity]

Oh, home sweet home!

Shield,

Where in Hayward are you? We are off Depot road!

 

[deereman75]

Deereman! Very cool! I am glad you are liking the unit. Let me know if you get chance to post some pics. The StickWeld is a very popular model for us! With the special we ran, there will be a few more reviews up shortly!

I am hoping to get someone into a plasma cutter!

Well we finally have some nice blue sky here today, so I will do some more welding, and post some pictures of the welds and machine. I have to say the ground clamp is also very good, th copper jaws are nice. If you ever want me to test new machines, just let me know. :thumbsup:

 

[Shield Arc]

Shield,

Where in Hayward are you? We are off Depot road!

I lived in California for about 20 years, Union City, Hayward, Alameda, Livermore, Tracy, Ripon, Bethel Island. Worked all over the Bay Area, and in LA.
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