Looking for A New Starter for 336D.

Rameck · Dec 6, 2013

Part # is 124250-77012 Type S12-77. Contacted Hoye and it $356 shipped. Has anyone replaced theirs with a different starter that works without the high cost? Rebuilder I talked to wants around $200 and that's if it can be rebuilt. Found one that says it replaces the part number but it much different looking and bigger, so don't know if it would actually fit. Never saw what Hoyes looks like.

thanks,
Ralph

Barry 1 · Dec 6, 2013

Try Small Engine Parts, Lawn Mower Parts, Marine Parts, ATV Parts, Dirt Bike Parts, Snowmobile Parts and More. and look under "small engine" then "Yanmar" then "starters"
They have a Nippondenso type starter half way down the page (AHSND0399) that should fit.
And is only $120+ shipping
(edit)It is 2kw,and the original is 2.5kw,so might not have enough power ?

winston1 · Dec 6, 2013

Here is a picture of the one Hoye sells. Yanmar Tractor Parts: STARTER ASSEMBLY ^^ SALE WAS $399 ^^

Yanmar Starter, 220, 226, 250, 276, 330, 336, YMG1800, 1802, 1810, 1820, YMG2000 - Electrical

New Starter CTS1277

And one more. http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Starter-Thermo-King-Truck-Units-KD-II-Yanmar-366-/350511873917

Sure not saying these will all fit but they do all have numbers that match your old one. Confirmation with the dealers could verify.

California · Dec 6, 2013

Rameck said:
Has anyone replaced theirs with a different starter that works without the high cost? Rebuilder I talked to wants around $200

I replaced my YM240/YM2000 starter with a higher-output one at very reasonable cost. 2KW, 15 tooth. It sure looks like the 336D replacement that Barry referenced for you.

I described it in a couple of posts in this old thread. The second post has a picture of the replacement alongside the (wrong) 'rebuilt' starter that was on the tractor when I bought it. There was plenty of space for the extra quarter inch length of the more powerful starter.

YM1700 won't start - Page 3

Rameck · Dec 7, 2013

All suggestions heading the right way but falling just short of what I need. The YM240/YM2000 and YM1700 starters have the wrong oem number for cross reference, so they won't work. 15 tooth and 1.5 KW is what the original specs call for, though a higher KW is OK. The starters I've seen match the oem part number don't look exactly the same as mine. They look like the one California used. They have a plug to connect the starter cable too and I don't have a plug to fit into the connector (California, how did you connect yours up?). The picture from Hoye does match the same type I have but I don't use the tractor enough to justify the higher cost. If I don't find one that looks like mine physically, I may try the other style.

Rameck · Dec 7, 2013

Barry1, "Small Engine Part..." doesn't have my oem reference listed, so, I guess they don't have my starter either.

kenmac · Dec 7, 2013

in the pic here New Starter CTS1277 it shows a stud on the side of the starter where the cable connects . I don't see the connector you speak of

careyo63 · Dec 7, 2013

Whats wrong with the Org. Starter? I just checked a old Receipt from when I had my 2000 starter done on 5/2011. The motor was worn slap out on it!! The shop even mentioned it when they seen the Brushes was Rev. I done that Yrs. before and it was only 72.75$ to rebuild it

California · Dec 7, 2013

Here's a photo of what I installed.

The wire from the keyswitch goes to the screw connector above the battery terminal. This isn't ideal design. Its too easy to hit that solenoid terminal with a jumper cable and crank unexpectedly. There should be a rubber shield there. I wrapped mine with electrician's tape.

When I bought my Yanmar it already had a badly-rebuilt starter of this style. (and no protection on that terminal). The wire from the keyswitch had been cut and a 6 inch extension added, because the original starter had its similar terminal on top.

Aside from this awkward terminal I think this starter is a broad-application replacement across many Yanmar and Deere models. Its beefy 2kw cranking power should raise the dead (equipment).

You noted you are replacing a 1.5 kw starter, my application called for 1.2~1.4kw. The tractor cranks like crazy and fires instantly. Via Ebay this cost $100, shipping included.

Specs from Rareelectrical website

YANMAR 171353-77010
NIPPONDENSO 128000-2070
JOHN DEERE AT110818

OEM(s): Denso, John Deere, Yanmar
Type: OSGR
Voltage: 12 Volts
kW: 2 kW
Rotation: CW
Teeth/Splines: 15 Teeth/Splines
Pinion/Splines OD: 44mm / 1.732in
Mounting Hole 1: 13mm ID
Unthreaded
Mounting Hole 2: 13mm ID
Unthreaded
New or Remanufactured: New
Approximate Weight: 12.1 lbs / 5.50 kg