SteveBenson
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$695 for the 72" model. I believe it weighs over 400# dry.
Looking for a roller....
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The places where I have finished digging down thru the topsoil I believe I have hit a sandy clay. When it is dry it has a sort of clumpy sandy consistency. I find when digging with the FEL on this layer the rear wheels will just dig themselves a hole if I try really pushing into a bank with the tractor. We had about 2 days of rain here from the remains of the hurricanes going thru New England on their way north and I went out tonite and did some digging and found that when this clayey soil was wet it compacted down pretty good and I got much more traction on it with the tractor when I was digging with the FEL. I am not too worried about compacting the layer I have dug down to since I think it is probably pretty compacted already - I am more worried about compacting the 2 to 2 1/2 feet I will have to lay down to bring the grade back up to where I want the driveway to be. I have had a number of suggestions on what to use as fill and the best option seemed to be the rock dust and 3/4 stone. I know this is commonly used for a base when patios and brick driveways are laid so I figured it would be good for a asphalt driveway also. Once I have this filled it will be sitting for probably a year or two before it finally gets paved.
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If you are filling with a stone dust/stone mix then letting it sit for a year or more compact it with your tractor in 6" lifts. A year of rain and driving on it will take care of the rest of the compacting. Also when it comes time to bring in the paving company they will flatten and roll the base again. I’d save my money on this round.
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TSC sells a 48" roller for under a hundred bucks.. or they did last year.
Make sure you don't get something too heavy for the bx to pull.
Try a sod company.. they use small rollers ( sod roller ) when putting down sod.
That said.. if you have a heavy implement on your tractor.. simply running back and forth will compact it. The surface area at ground contact on that tractor is small.. and the weight is decent.. that figures out to some good psi ratios.
I've compacted building pads using a pan filled with dirt.. simply rolling over and over it..
They also make small vibratory culdepackers.. Perhaps one of these 3 options will work for you.
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Make sure you don't get something too heavy for the bx to pull.
Try a sod company.. they use small rollers ( sod roller ) when putting down sod.
That said.. if you have a heavy implement on your tractor.. simply running back and forth will compact it. The surface area at ground contact on that tractor is small.. and the weight is decent.. that figures out to some good psi ratios.
I've compacted building pads using a pan filled with dirt.. simply rolling over and over it..
They also make small vibratory culdepackers.. Perhaps one of these 3 options will work for you.
Soundguy
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( ...This would mean at least a couple of days of rentals and I bet the rental fee on a pavement roller around here (northeast MA. ) is probably at least $150 a day. Then I also have other projects where I am going to have to do some compacting so I figured buying a roller to do all these jobs would make sense moneywise spread over all the jobs I had to do. )</font>
Day rates on rentals suck. You might want to check out the weekly, or even monthly rate. The longer you rent, the better the break.
I just checked my "Rentals Unlimited" Catalog they have a Double drum Vibratory Roller (walk behind) that rents for $110/day or $385/week.
Here's another example, I once rented a flooring nailer for a month @ $60/ month, The day rate was $30/day. I didn't use it for the whole month so I got credited back about $10.
Day rates on rentals suck. You might want to check out the weekly, or even monthly rate. The longer you rent, the better the break.
I just checked my "Rentals Unlimited" Catalog they have a Double drum Vibratory Roller (walk behind) that rents for $110/day or $385/week.
Here's another example, I once rented a flooring nailer for a month @ $60/ month, The day rate was $30/day. I didn't use it for the whole month so I got credited back about $10.
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Rollers are for smoothing, and won't help much.
Tractors are under-rated as compactors.
A CUT with the loader full of dirt and a heavy implement on the back (loaded tires help too!) is a much more effective packer than any roller. If the soil moisture is just right, the wheels can pack it very effectively.
Doing a 20x100' drive wouldn't take no time at all with 16-24" wide tires.
Tractors are under-rated as compactors.
A CUT with the loader full of dirt and a heavy implement on the back (loaded tires help too!) is a much more effective packer than any roller. If the soil moisture is just right, the wheels can pack it very effectively.
Doing a 20x100' drive wouldn't take no time at all with 16-24" wide tires.
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Taylor rental in Haverhill has rollers
taylor rental / party plus Click on equipment.
vibrating roller double drum gas $105/day. Diesel $124 per day.
taylor rental / party plus Click on equipment.
vibrating roller double drum gas $105/day. Diesel $124 per day.
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I was wondering if I might just be best off using the tractor to do the compacting. It is a BX23 so it is not the heaviest tractor but the rear tires are loaded with beet juice and I have 600+ pound backhoe attachment hanging off the back. There has to be a good 900 -1000 pounds on the rear wheels.
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Figure that with your tire footprint and that is a decent load. Like I said.. I've compacted without rollers.. and just used equipment driven over and over an area..
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Figure that with your tire footprint and that is a decent load. Like I said.. I've compacted without rollers.. and just used equipment driven over and over an area..Soundguy )</font>
I wouldn't compact with tractor tires for state highway construction or a home foundation, but it's just fine for a driveway. In fact, A heavy little CUT can be better than a big dozer for packing. My little TC29 was better than my TC35 for packing. As you say, it's the PSI that counts.
I wouldn't compact with tractor tires for state highway construction or a home foundation, but it's just fine for a driveway. In fact, A heavy little CUT can be better than a big dozer for packing. My little TC29 was better than my TC35 for packing. As you say, it's the PSI that counts.
