Looking for info on a pull behind trailer with hoe attached

   / Looking for info on a pull behind trailer with hoe attached
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#21  
Think that was mentioned before I may have to consider that option.
Have a winter to decide what to do.
 
   / Looking for info on a pull behind trailer with hoe attached #22  
I've been visualizing this for the last few days. Attach a ball mount to the plate that supports one of the outriggers. Set up your trailer with an extended tongue. When you get to the dig site, maneuver the trailer into a "jackknifed" position. You can then load the trailer without disconnecting it. As far as dumping, either do it hydraulically or attach a bar that you can grab with the backhoe bucket to dump the trailer.
 
   / Looking for info on a pull behind trailer with hoe attached #23  
OP, thanks for starting such a thought provoking thread! I've been looking in on this thread for a few days myself waiting to see what creative ideas were came up with. I had an idea of my own with parts of it based on an old homemade hay wagon I used many years ago.

Salvage an old 2WD pickup rolling chassis. Just the frame, suspension, wheels, tires, original parking brake system, and a tie rod to keep it steering properly.

Grab the cheapest handbrake/parking brake from some junkyard ya can find and create a mount for it with it tied in to the parking brake cables on your rolling chassis.

Build a nice big flatbed on the whole frame.

Purchase or create your own bumper-pull type tow bar and attach to the front, it doesn't need a long tongue, just three or four feet...

Take a piece of chain and create a loop at the end of the tongue, just long enough you can hook on a couple of the backhoe teeth, and curl the bucket in so the teeth are up and the back of the bucket prevents the tongue from raising enough to provide enough slack for the chain to hop off the teeth.

My thoughts on this as a solution: It keeps 100% of the weight on your wagon. A backhoe on the back of a tractor is a good deal of weight and already has an effect on the stability of the machine. Tongue weight of a tow-bar solution is only a few pounds as it will pivot up and down at the connecting point of your wagon. Having a working handbrake solution on the wagon would help in two ways, first it would hold the wagon during loading operations, and second you could set the brake half-way for traversing down large hills to help keep the wagon from pushing the tractor down a hill with heavy loads onboard (good tires on the back of the wagon are required for the brakes to do much good). Once you get to your dump site, just flip it over on it's side with your loader to empty then drag it back over on it's wheels for another round.

It could be done really cheap. If sourced properly, you could probably earn money in the process (selling parts from a free junk truck to get to what you need).
 
   / Looking for info on a pull behind trailer with hoe attached #24  
OP, thanks for starting such a thought provoking thread! I've been looking in on this thread for a few days myself waiting to see what creative ideas were came up with. I had an idea of my own with parts of it based on an old homemade hay wagon I used many years ago.

Salvage an old 2WD pickup rolling chassis. Just the frame, suspension, wheels, tires, original parking brake system, and a tie rod to keep it steering properly.

Grab the cheapest handbrake/parking brake from some junkyard ya can find and create a mount for it with it tied in to the parking brake cables on your rolling chassis.

Build a nice big flatbed on the whole frame.

Purchase or create your own bumper-pull type tow bar and attach to the front, it doesn't need a long tongue, just three or four feet...

Take a piece of chain and create a loop at the end of the tongue, just long enough you can hook on a couple of the backhoe teeth, and curl the bucket in so the teeth are up and the back of the bucket prevents the tongue from raising enough to provide enough slack for the chain to hop off the teeth.

My thoughts on this as a solution: It keeps 100% of the weight on your wagon. A backhoe on the back of a tractor is a good deal of weight and already has an effect on the stability of the machine. Tongue weight of a tow-bar solution is only a few pounds as it will pivot up and down at the connecting point of your wagon. Having a working handbrake solution on the wagon would help in two ways, first it would hold the wagon during loading operations, and second you could set the brake half-way for traversing down large hills to help keep the wagon from pushing the tractor down a hill with heavy loads onboard (good tires on the back of the wagon are required for the brakes to do much good). Once you get to your dump site, just flip it over on it's side with your loader to empty then drag it back over on it's wheels for another round.

It could be done really cheap. If sourced properly, you could probably earn money in the process (selling parts from a free junk truck to get to what you need).

I would put a real hitch on the tongue and hook to the backhoe frame NOT the bucket. You will break or bend something if you hook to the bucket then drive off (might need to put in a swivel if you want to flip it over to dump)
Around here, $400-1200 will get you a dump wagon ready to go (ie: wagon with dump hoist or hydrolic dump trailer just need to lengthen the tongue enough to be able to jackknife it.

Aaron Z
 
   / Looking for info on a pull behind trailer with hoe attached #25  
Really, hooking or pulling much more than a bucket sized load produces in breakout force anywhere on a 3-point backhoe is risking breaking or bending something. I think having an extra ton or so being pulled and bounced over uneven terrain could produce some odd shocks to it that would generate quite a bit of risk in bending or breaking something. Creating an extra subframe connected to the tractor would be ideal.

I also think GPintheMitten's idea of doing some sort of easy connection to the front should be considered. Many good ways that could work.

I'd still prefer using some sort of four wheeled wagon over a traditional trailer.
 
   / Looking for info on a pull behind trailer with hoe attached
  • Thread Starter
#26  
Both those dump wagons are great but never seem any for sale in my neck of the woods.
 
   / Looking for info on a pull behind trailer with hoe attached #27  
You could use a one wheel trailer and mount on bucket with two mounting points. Then haul to digging point unhook, load, hook back up and take to dump point. I don't know of any trailer that is made like this of any size. You would probably have to build it yourself. The guy that lives across the road has an old tent camper trailer that is like that. big dan
 
   / Looking for info on a pull behind trailer with hoe attached #28  
i really think you should look at those trailers i posted in my previous post on here. dang good price and can even be run off hydro to dump. i dont know about your property but backing up all over mine would be insane. to borrow a term from tv my "haul road" twists and turns all over the property out of sight to most people who look out over it. my other concern is you have a 3 point mounted back hoe so welding anything to it would really increase the stress on it. A 4 wheel wagon with a front turning axel for about a grand would to me be the best the option. maybe fab up an extra long tounge for your draw bar with a pin on section at the end for removal during normal operation. lots of good ideas for flat landers have been posted.
 
   / Looking for info on a pull behind trailer with hoe attached #29  
What it sounds like to me that yo uneed is a cheap older 1 ton pichup with a dump box. Way, way faster to drive, dumo and return than a trailer. Understand if it is outside of your budget (or the wife's budget as you say), buit is soulds like your most simple and efficient solution.
 

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