Egon
Epic Contributor
Be aware of the Five gallon overhaul.
Be aware of the Five gallon overhaul.
What's a 5 gallon overhaul? It's not a term I've heard before.Be aware of the Five gallon overhaul.
Add in the industrial backhoes ability to lift around a ton with a chain from the backhoe bucket and its ability to place it wherever wanted as well.Exactly what I'm recommending. I wonder if it could possibly run anywhere near as good as it looks? What it looks like for that price is if it runs and works it is pretty close to a steal. A guy could use that 580 for a couple of years and sell it for same. Both the Case 580 and JD 310 of that vintage are very similar. But if you aren't the kind of person who enjoys tinkering with old machinery I'd give it a pass.
A lot of times the work to be done doesn't depend so much on how much land it is, it depends on what kind of work it is. An old Case 580 or JD310 can scoop and move close to a cubic yard of soil and and kind of rock at a time and handles it without stress or damage. The loader can push snow like a champion, and literally lifts tons. The bucket alone weighs a thousand pounds. We used the backhoe on ours to turn over the soil on a 20x40 garden plot. A tiller could have done it better, but no easier. Trenching? No problem... Trees? Rocks? all the same.
rScotty
I think he is talking about a cheap fast repaint, to make a machine look new when they could have spent the paint money on actual repair that might have been needed.What's a 5 gallon overhaul? It's not a term I've heard before.
Usually when buying an old piece of machinery I just talk to the person to find out exactly what shape it's in. Usually they are real helpful.
I've bought old machines my whole life. Nobody has ever lied to me or AFAIK attempted to misrepresent old tools or machinery. The older they are, the less likely it is. The first thing I look for is just overall appearance. The second is a reasonable price. The third is how long they have owned it. After that we just talk for awhile....
On old stuff the basic operating condition is pretty easy to tell. I've bought a number of machines on nothing more than a telephone conversation and a photo.
rScotty
Oh, you may be right. Actually I'm glad you brought that up. The one thing that will cause me to walk away without even looking at an old machine is new paint - especially if they have painted the wiring and the hoses. Do that, and I'm not even going to waste our time.SNIP...
I think he is talking about a cheap fast repaint. to make a machine look new when they could have spent the paint money on actual repair that might have been needed
For once we agree. Paint covering everything is a big NO. Hate when there is paint on hydraulic lines and tires. Or over spray between two colors. That tells me they are lazy and equipment is abused.Oh, you may be right. Actually I'm glad you brought that up. The one thing that will cause me to walk away without even looking at an old machine is new paint - especially if they have painted the wiring and the hoses. Do that, and I'm not even going to waste our time.
What I am impressed by is old paint....old original factory paint. Never mind that it is faded and chipped - the older the better. An old original hard-oxidized factory paint job is best of all.
It would be nice if the OP would visit again. Is a large old backhoe what he's envisioning? Or a newer SCUT? or?