Lost little dog to coyotes

[Farmer Dell]

You are correct Dave, I am a nature lover too, I didn't intend to be offensive, it just that some "nature extremist" or maybe I should have said, tree huggers, or Bambi lovers, go way overboard and do NOT manage the natural resources at all - gees.

 

[txdon]

You are correct Dave, I am a nature lover too, I didn't intend to be offensive, it just that some "nature extremist" or maybe I should have said, tree huggers, or Bambi lovers, go way overboard and do NOT manage the natural resources at all - gees.

The exact same could be said about the hunters. I do not want to see humans suffer because of the human population explosion. I am surrounded by at least 30 hunters that shoot all animals on sight. Some have pit bulls that have attacked livestock and people.

every year 100 people die from hunting accidents and 800 are injured.

There has been one death associated with coyotes.

 

[dave1949]

You are correct Dave, I am a nature lover too, I didn't intend to be offensive, it just that some "nature extremist" or maybe I should have said, tree huggers, or Bambi lovers, go way overboard and do NOT manage the natural resources at all - gees.

I wasn't offended. There are extremists on all sides of any contentious issue, goes with the territory.

The history of some of these things is interesting too in the sense of how did we get to where we are.

Today, house or barn cats are death on song birds for example, but their original usefulness was rodent control. That was very important if people wanted to eat through the winter and not be sickened by rodent droppings and spoilage. Before canning, freezers and modern container materials, it must have been a challenge to keep food for long periods while fighting off the rats and such. A couple of good cats would have been very welcome and valuable.

I don't know why folks turn a cat loose outside and expect it will always be safe. They often get squished in the road if nothing eats them. They are good company, and still catch mice, but people have to be realistic too.

I know this doesn't apply to the OP and the dog he was temporarily caring for, but a good, tall fence is the best way to keep a pet dog safe from most things. The majority of dogs kept now are totally dependent on people to keep them alive and healthy.

 

[Farmer Dell]

I agree Dave, The history is interesting indeed. I live in the third oldest area of the Nations founding ( Queen Anne's County), with Plymouth then Jamestown before us. I mention this as I learned that "picket fences" were originally designed to keep wild animals away from the early houses, affording the people and pets relative safety after dark. I guess some things never change.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

The exact same could be said about the hunters. I do not want to see humans suffer because of the human population explosion. I am surrounded by at least 30 hunters that shoot all animals on sight. Some have pit bulls that have attacked livestock and people.

every year 100 people die from hunting accidents and 800 are injured.

There has been one death associated with coyotes.

In my state, if a dog harasses livestock it can be killed on sight, and if it damages or kills livestock, the dog owner just bought 1000 lbs. of prime rib. I don't know about humans, but Oregon is a must-issue concealed carry state that includes self-defense in its constitution. You never know when granny will be packing a Walther. Also, dogs that attack people are destroyed.

If you live where they raise livestock, coyotes cause hundreds or thousands of deaths a year.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

There are two thing on this earth impossible to eradicate, the cockroach and the coyote... well maybe three now... the feral hog.!

Norway rats far outnumber humans on the planet. There are maybe 100 billion of them. Raccoons are doing very well in cities across North America. Dingos are the coyote of Australia, and some serious efforts at eradication have failed miserably. From what I hear, the Burmese Python is here to stay in Florida.

 

[txdon]

Larry, I do live in a area where cattle is the #1 agriculture income. Our coyote problem is not bad and there are only several calf deaths each year that are attributed to coyotes. Every once in a while we see bobcats and cougars. I can imagine the smaller animals like sheep and goats would be a likely target.

 

[iagt]

I appreciate everyone's comments. I will probably hunt some the Christmas break. My concern is the coyotes have gotten more bold in the past six weeks or so. In that time we have seen yotes in pairs on two occasions on driveway and not loss my mother's dog. This seems to me an over population issue. (As an aside, there are reports of coyotes all over Intercity Houston.)

Cypress is a suburb of Houston. We like to say we live in the country tho because we cannot get cable or good internet access. We are only 4 miles north of the highway.

I taught my son that we must eat what we kill but I think this is an exception.

 

[My442]

I live in Mass., and never saw a coyote in my first 50 years. I decided to get a game camera, and now see up to 5 or 6 at a time.
They are never seen during the daytime.
The wildlife population here has skyrocketed: deer, turkeys, foxes, raccoon's, skunks are running everywhere.
Need to be careful with the pets, as some of my neighbors have lost multiple cats.

 

[tractchores]

Also in MA, in our area small pets don't go out without being on-leash and close by. We have coyotes around, but they seem to be in a decent balance and are very wary of people. There's 3 - 4 that own the territory where we roam and keep others out. (we watch them on game cameras). A neighbor lost a cat in middle of the day a few months ago to a coyote and in general outdoor cats just don't last long around here (coyotes, owls, fishers, raccoons, foxes, hawks and bobcats). I could hunt them every day and it wouldn't solve the problem. Unfortunately animals below a certain size become part of the 'food chain' and the only way to ensure their safety is to either be with them (on a leash a few feet away) or keep them inside. I couldn't imagine a worse thing (we lost lots of pets growing up to coyotes) and all our pets stay inside or on a leash now.