Mahindra vrs JD

DAP · Jul 9, 2004

That's fine Bob. And only a bozo would argue your definition of Performance.

My post was intended to line up the models in answer to a sentence in your previous post that ended with a question mark.

I also added for reference, that Mahindra as a brand did NOT incorporate last week.

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Bob_Skurka · Jul 9, 2004

doc, I think you have illustrate your point well. It is obviously not the "normal" relationship that most of us on TBN have seen with JD. I have similar relationships with 2 car dealerships and 1 truck dealership.

FLDave · Jul 9, 2004

That's exactly why I got rid of my VW Passat. Expensive and inadequate dealer maintenance. Excellent car but the dealer charged me $100.00 for oil changes and to check the fluids!?!? Some parts took as long as two weeks to get in and when they arrived they were the wrong parts!! And this is a major car manufacturer!!/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Like I said, it was a great car but the expensive routine maintenance began to make me hate it and when I wanted to trade it in I had one heck of a time finding a dealer that would give me a fair price for it (or even want it for that matter).

These are factors that will affect you. No maybe not in the beginning but when the warranty wears out you don't want to be on your own and at the mercy of bad or overpriced support.

Now I have a Dodge Diesel that takes 12 quarts of oil and the dealer charges me $49.95 for oil, filter, and inspection. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I usually do my own maintenace but its nice to know you will be taken care of if needed.

Mahindra looks like they have many big dealers in Texas, I'm in Florida though and have to take that into consideration when making a purchase.

To address the originator of the post, Joey you need to find a comfort level you can deal with. Look at your closest dealers and then look at the next closest dealers. It's aways good to have back-ups for support/maintenance and to get competive price quotes.

Good Luck on your decision.

cowboydoc · Jul 9, 2004

It is obviously not the "normal" relationship that most of us on TBN have seen with JD. 

Well to use your own quote Bob. And please take this with the humor it was meant. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I guess what I am saying is I don't give a rat's pitootie about somewhere else, I care about here, because here is what our reality is with regards to parts, service, models, etc.

Charlie_in_TX · Jul 9, 2004

( Charlie the only reason I got into this thread was because it said Mahindra vs. JD. I would think if this guy wanted a good comparison he would want to hear from both camps.
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Cowboy, I really don't care if you visit forums and give opinions. My problem comes from you trying to build up your brand by nocking another brand. Point out the good in yours all you want.

Bob_Skurka · Jul 9, 2004

( ( Charlie the only reason I got into this thread was because it said Mahindra vs. JD. I would think if this guy wanted a good comparison he would want to hear from both camps.
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Cowboy, I really don't care if you visit forums and give opinions. My problem comes from you trying to build up your brand by nocking another brand. Point out the good in yours all you want. )

Here is what Cowboydoc wrote:

 First of all compare apples to apples Charlie. The 2615 is NOT equivalent to the 4210. The 4210 is 28hp gross and 23 hp pto. The 2615 is 26 hp and 21 hp pto. To get to the same tractor you need to jump up to a 2810 to get 28 hp. Your pump flow is 3.5 gallons/minute and the 4210 is 5.3 gallons/minute for steering and 11.9 to 7.8 for the rest of the hydraulics, a huge difference. That equates to faster recycle times, faster loader times, and faster three point hitch times which equals more work in less time. As far as lift capacity on paper the 2615 has 500 more lbs. but I'm told that is because they use a different angle to measure it. That's very common. You see the same thing on loaders. There are numerous other factors as well. OH AND FYI the 4210 weighs MORE than the 2615 by 300 lbs.!!!! 

 It seems to me that Cowboydoc was pretty objective, laid out the information, and didn't take any pains to knock anything.

Charlie_in_TX · Jul 9, 2004

I do understand your relationship with your JD dealer. I know of no one outside the farming industry who has such a relationship. To assume that my JD dealer, or anyone elses on this forum, will treat you is just wrong. My family has spent over $80,000 at one JD dealer. One salesmen (the GM) for each sell. He/his company would not come out and sevice a 65hp tractor (I think it was a 6100 or 6110 4x4, cab, FEL). He would not allow my step-dad to pay a tech to come sevice it. He would only haul it in for $200 or allow his tech to come look at it after hours.

That is the way it is for us in the real tractor world. No repairmen drops what he is doing, loads up his tools, and comes to fix you equipment at any failure.

Bob_Skurka · Jul 9, 2004

( No repairmen drops what he is doing, loads up his tools, and comes to fix you equipment at any failure. )

Well not to speak for Cowboydoc, but my headlamp on my Ventrac burnt out. It is under warrenty. I was talking to the dealer about something completely different and he asked about the tractor. I told him the fuse for the headlight blew several times, I told him I suspected a dead ground. He told me he would drive down to fix it. It is a 7 hour drive from Central Lawn & Turf in the middle of Wisconsin to drive to the outskirts of Lowell, Indiana.

I told him not to bother, I don't use that tractor in the dark. He told me if anything else happens he'd come down, pick up the machine, get it & the light fixed and get it back to me.

Charlie_in_TX · Jul 9, 2004

You need to go a little futher back. Cowboy claimed a tractor from the big 3 cost less than a Mahindra or Kioti. I am requesting he backup his words with actions . So far he has chosen to get bogged down in the minutia of the diffenrce (which are slight) instead of the cost (which his large).

One question for you. Cowboy is a big boy. He has been able to state his opinion quite well in this thread and in the past. Why the need to protect him?

Bob_Skurka · Jul 9, 2004

Charlie, there was just this exact discussion on both the New Holland and the Chinese Tractor threads. A guy named GOATMAN picked up a brands spanking new N.H. TC30 because it cost less than anything else he could find, including the stripped down, minimal warrently, shoddily put together, but basically sound Chinese machines.