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   / Make sure you get your permits before plowing your fields... #41  
I have no problems with people who move here from "the city" and make a genuine effort to fit in. Yeah, sometimes it's a bit amusing when a newcomer buys an LL Bean flannel shirt and a toyota truck and think they're one of the boys, but at least their intentions are in the right place. My (and I'd guess most peoples') issue is with those who move to the sticks, then complain that there's no trash pickup or that their neighbor has junk in their yard or that the neighbor's livestock stinks. If you want a bunch of restrictive rules about how you (or your neighbors) live, stay in suburbia.

I don't own an LL Bean flannel shirt but do have a Toyota beater truck :)
We don't have trash pick up but as long as the dump site keep taking my trash I ain't complaining. My neighbor has about 400 heads but I hardly ever smell anything.
BTW, once a year when he steers the bulls, he makes cajun couillon tacos and gives me some. Those are delicious.
 
   / Make sure you get your permits before plowing your fields... #42  
Interesting thread, and pretty much expresses both sides of the equation. I was raised as a country boy, and wouldn't trade it for anything close...but I spent over 20 years in the field of environmental regulation, and can testify that things can get out of hand. Family farms for the most part, do not and have not caused problems except for the city slickers who don't want to see animals having sex, pooping, and the attendant smells and sounds. These folks should Get TFO.

On the other hand, if you have ever seen or been near a corporate CAFO....Confined Animal Feeding Operation, you can see, smell and hear the problem. The amount of animal waste is often staggering...and you can often smell it for miles when the wind is right...and if it isn't properly handled, it can destroy the surrounding ground water. I had one man tell me that when he flushed his stool, the incoming water was as bad as that going out...that it smelled so bad it was useless...and they couldn't even sit on their porch any more because they were covered with files...and you have no idea what tons of chicken manure can do to the environment; including runoff into the rivers and creeks.

I have no patience with those who move to the country and want to "enlighten" the hicks, but I also have no sympathy with the corporate "farmers" who think that the right to farm is unlimited.

Agree completely.
 
   / Make sure you get your permits before plowing your fields... #43  
I don't own an LL Bean flannel shirt but do have a Toyota beater truck :)
We don't have trash pick up but as long as the dump site keep taking my trash I ain't complaining. My neighbor has about 400 heads but I hardly ever smell anything.
BTW, once a year when he steers the bulls, he makes
cajun couillon tacos
and gives me some. Those are delicious.

What in the world are "Cajun couillon tacos"? I know one thing, I am a big fan of calf fries...and if you ever go through Amarillo, stop at the Big Texan...theirs are as good as they get!
 
   / Make sure you get your permits before plowing your fields... #44  
What in the world are "Cajun couillon tacos"? I know one thing, I am a big fan of calf fries...and if you ever go through Amarillo, stop at the Big Texan...theirs are as good as they get!

I'm not sure what "Cajun couillon tacos"are either but suspect they have a close relative in Rocky Mountain Oysters.
 
   / Make sure you get your permits before plowing your fields... #45  
What in the world are "Cajun couillon tacos"? I know one thing, I am a big fan of calf fries...and if you ever go through Amarillo, stop at the Big Texan...theirs are as good as they get!

He lightly brown then chopped them up and added cajun seasoning and make taco meat out of them. Put that into a crunchy taco with shredded lettuce, homemade fresh salsa, and topped with guacamole/good shredded cheese. They are delicious!
 
   / Make sure you get your permits before plowing your fields... #46  
He lightly brown then chopped them up and added cajun seasoning and make taco meat out of them. Put that into a crunchy taco with shredded lettuce, homemade fresh salsa, and topped with guacamole/good shredded cheese. They are delicious!

Sounds good to me! Since you mentioned fresh salsa, I'll share a wonderful salsa dip recipe...works best with fresh out of the garden veggies:

Two parts fresh chopped tomatoes
One part fresh chopped onion
One part fresh chopped peppers...mix of green/yellow/red (or whatever you have) and a mix of hot/mild

Add enough Original Wishbone Italian Dressing to cover; mix well, add some tortilla chips for dipping and stand back!
 
   / Make sure you get your permits before plowing your fields... #47  
Originally Posted by 2LaneCruzer

On the other hand, if you have ever seen or been near a corporate CAFO....Confined Animal Feeding Operation, you can see, smell and hear the problem. The amount of animal waste is often staggering...and you can often smell it for miles when the wind is right...and if it isn't properly handled, it can destroy the surrounding ground water. I had one man tell me that when he flushed his stool, the incoming water was as bad as that going out...that it smelled so bad it was useless...and they couldn't even sit on their porch any more because they were covered with files...and you have no idea what tons of chicken manure can do to the environment; including runoff into the rivers and creeks.

Lots of manure in eastern Oregon:
Proposed Oregon mega-dairy wins key permit

A dairy with 30,000 animals proposed for Eastern Oregon has won state approval of its plan to manage the 187 million gallons of manure it will produce each year.

Lost Valley Farm would be the second-largest confined animal feeding operation (CAFO) in the state, after neighboring Threemile Canyon Farms, which has 70,000 animals.
 
   / Make sure you get your permits before plowing your fields... #48  
Wow - 700 million gallons of manure between them...that's a lot of methane
 
   / Make sure you get your permits before plowing your fields... #49  
Wow - 700 million gallons of manure between them...that's a lot of methane

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   / Make sure you get your permits before plowing your fields... #50  
Wow - 700 million gallons of manure between them...that's a lot of methane

I'm not into the engineering, but that much manure is a source not only of methane, but of heat. Properly handled, it could provide the energy for the operation or part of it, and a huge amount of compost.
 

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