Making hoses with regular press

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The setup in the video uses Weatherhead Coll-O-Crimp tolling. This only works if you are using Weatherhead hose and fittings, or 100% interchangeable components. Also note, Weatherhead makes multiple lines of hoses and fittings, and the tooling shown will crimp some of them, but not all of them.

If you want a flexible hose crimping system that will crimp a variety of hoses and fittings, we have a portable hose crimper for less than $1200 plus dies ($175 each) and is powered by your own 10,000 hydraulic pump.

You can also purchase the crimper with a manual pump or pneumatic (air over hydraulic) pump for a bit more. Our full line of crimpers (and a useful video) can be viewed at the link below"

Hydraulic Hose Crimpers @ DiscountHydraulicHose.com
 
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What would you hose guys do when a customer brings in a hose and just wants a fitting replaced, do you make an educated guess about the crimp, and will you guarantee the repair.

The odds are if it needs a new end on an old hose then a new hose will be quoted....

If by chance the hose looks new and it is the same brand I carry, then I'll put on a new end with no guaranty....

If I make a new hose with new ends using factory crimp specs then that covers me as far as liability when selling my finished product.....

It all boils down to whether or not you are doing it for profit ($$) or for saving money on your own equipment......two different senarios
 
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Our local Fleet Farm has a large selection of pre-made hoses. The few that wouldn't be a fit the local hydraulic shop can put together reasonably.
 
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I usually end up just buying the premade at tractor supply. I like the reuseable fittings but they are so expensive each. I tried pricing out some hoses from sponsors online but it doesn't see worth the price and have to wait.
 
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I purchased a Hosecomatic hyd kit with fewer parts several years ago. I don't know that I will be making up hose assembly's based on some comments about tolerances and so forth.

Anybody use these manual hyd kits?

Hosecomaticョ Hydraulic Hose Repair Kit - Spaldings

It appears that if you use the stated hose and their fittings, and use the beading tool and use some good calipers, you might get some good tight hose assembly.

What would you hose guys do when a customer brings in a hose and just wants a fitting replaced, do you make an educated guess about the crimp, and will you guarantee the repair.

How does that work..??

How long does it take to make a hose..??
 
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The crimp maker looks like a pipe cutter with a rounded wheel, and it compresses a ring around the hose. You turn the ring maker until it meets the stated size.

What that pipe roller does, is to roll some crimping beads around the sleeve.

You have to use a micrometer to get it right, and you have to use a specific hose.

Hosecomatic® fittings are approved for use with SAE 100R1 AT medium pressure hose and SAE 100R2 AT high pressure hose, with a range of BSP and JIC fittings available to cover over 80% of hoses in use
 
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What would you hose guys do when a customer brings in a hose and just wants a fitting replaced, do you make an educated guess about the crimp, and will you guarantee the repair.

With hydraulic hoses, we try not to make guesses (educated or otherwise) about the crimp specifications. Saving a handful of dollars on a single hose assembly isn't worth the thousands in liability, the possibility of serious injury, or worse....

We usually steer away from putting new fittings on an old hose, but under some circumstances, we may do so if the hose is in good condition and is one that we made ourselves or one that we know meets the same SAE specifications as our own hoses.
 
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Ken,

Let me ask you this about the reusable fittings.

Are we talking here about a specific hose or a general range of hoses, as in SAE 100R2AT Hydraulic Hose from any manufacturer other than name brands.

How secure and confident can a non professional use the reusable fittings for pressure up to 3500 psi? Do you all have a disclaimer for the reusable fittings, such as use at your own risk?
 
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they are generally a proprietary set up. not made to be used with other mfg. product. you do raise a good point though about liability. i figure its the same as the porta-crimpers they are a system in themselves and are used by a lot of non professional people.
 
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JJ,

The only disclaimer we post on the reusable hose ends is that the fittings for SAE 100R2AT hose can ONLY be used with SAE 100R2AT hose. We don't specify manufacturer, just that the hose needs to meet all requirements for the proper SAE specification.
 

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