Making your own hay not profitable

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Cowboydoc,

I'm wondering if you have a link you could post where I can read the whole study.
 
   / Making your own hay not profitable #32  
I would have to agree with this we switched about 10 years ago and boy do we get along much better. As it is every where many children have left the farm because it cant support all of them or just different career choices. And as cowboydoc say's with Round baler you can be a one man operation.
 
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The article was in the last issue of Missouri Farming.
 
   / Making your own hay not profitable #34  
<font color="blue"> small Registered Charolais seedstock herd </font>

How many calves a year do you have to pull or how many do you loose with those Charolais?
 
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No problems with calving until this year, Lost a pair of twins in the birthing process. If we had been there to assist, I think we may have been able to help. We breed to bulls with low calving weight and high weining weight traits. This usually eleminates the calving problems--Ken Sweet

Sweet Farm Equipment LLC *New Livestock Handling Equipment*
 
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As Sweet said, a Charolais bull that throws a low birth weight calf is what you want. Spend your money on the bull. The bull is what makes you money. We cross a Charolais Bull with Angus cows and have very little problems. Usually sell the bull when he weighs 1800 LBS so he does not break down the cows. Any old Charolais bull will not work, pay $1,000-2,000 for a good one.
 
   / Making your own hay not profitable #37  
Yep most people are going to round bales, It makes for some really nice deals on good used square balers now.
We do mostly 5X5 round, but do small squares for calf feeding and selling to horse people.
 
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What Im about to say pertains to NE gnerally:
In general small square bales are the only medium if hay is being sold.
Round bales stay on the farm where they were baled.

Small square bales dont necessarily mean more labor. It depends on how you plan to use them. Selling out of the field means the buyer provides the labor. If its collected it mostly gets kicked onto carts and hauled back to a central location where the buyer does the unloading/loading. Day labor is only needed if its stored for use on the farm and there arent enough relations to get the job done. Im not sure what the break down is between forage farms and others. I think most farmers though sell some hay.

Land use and size is radically different than most other places in the country. Field sizes tend to be small as the land is cut up in umteen number of small parcels.

In my neighborhood (the southern part of the state) many land holders allow farmers to hay their land w/o payment. It keeps the land open and in good condition. The farmer pays the expense of upkeep (fertilizer, seed, lime, etc). It works well for all involved.

Most hay is straight grass hay...nothing special. If you take the time and expense to grow something special you can do rather well. However, its a full time job for sure b/c the weather early and late in the yr doesnt make it easy to hay. To make money you need to cut 4 crops....a major challenge. However, you can sell all you make w/o a problem.

As for the report that lead off this topic it applies to a certain region and *maybe* others as well. Very little about an operation in TX would apply to NE. I suppose they have to read them w/ an eye to glee more than as gospel. Before I would put aything into practice Id have to verify the research and assumptions that went into it. Too much of what comes out of universities and the govt can be classed as 'publish or parish' material.
 
   / Making your own hay not profitable #39  
I think the comment re squares being more labour intensive still stands despite if the buyer provides the labour.

Squares are the only viable option for horse people and horse people are the only ones who will pay much here.

You either need to throw money at expensive equipment like a bale bandit or you need stack wagons or you can use basquets. All break more bales than manual labour.

Most people use haylofts for storage but I hate working in them. I think we will use a pole barn with plastic down then pallets. The labour to get bales up into then out of a loft is crazy!
 
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