Manual

MossRoad · May 20, 2006

Well said, Blackwell.

I will agree with the folks that it is a bit aggravating to have a manual that has things in it that don't pertain to your machine. For instance, the second day I had my Pt425, I spent 10-15 minutes looking for grease zerks on my lift assembly that is shows in the manual. I couldn't find them. I called Power Trac and they told me they decided the zerks weren't needed in those locations any more. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Grrrrrr. But I got over it. I think the benefits of the machine far outweigh those quirks of the company that made it.

MossRoad · May 20, 2006

Well said, Blackwell.

I will agree with the folks that it is a bit aggravating to have a manual that has things in it that don't pertain to your machine. For instance, the second day I had my Pt425, I spent 10-15 minutes looking for grease zerks on my lift assembly that is shows in the manual. I couldn't find them. I called Power Trac and they told me they decided the zerks weren't needed in those locations any more. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Grrrrrr. But I got over it. I think the benefits of the machine far outweigh those quirks of the company that made it.

Barryh · May 21, 2006

>>>Many of you have same models but made in different years with different components, thus creating confusion.<<<

The above reason is why, having an interactive online Web Site / manual is a GREAT idea. You can collectively do revisions on different years, models, parts, ect on the fly. Not to mention enlarged color photo's, helpful links to specialized tools, custom modifications, attachments and so on.

As to it being of no value, guess we just have to agree to disagree. I personally I have no problem with the machine or the company. I love my PT, and I feel Terry, and his staff do an adequate job of returning calls, and will in most situations, help in getting the problem solved.

There can always be improvements, and the company should be aware of any complaints or problems reported by commercial AND home owners alike. I may not have a fleet of PTs for business use, but my PT to me… is still a big investment.
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Barryh · May 21, 2006

>>>Many of you have same models but made in different years with different components, thus creating confusion.<<<

The above reason is why, having an interactive online Web Site / manual is a GREAT idea. You can collectively do revisions on different years, models, parts, ect on the fly. Not to mention enlarged color photo's, helpful links to specialized tools, custom modifications, attachments and so on.

As to it being of no value, guess we just have to agree to disagree. I personally I have no problem with the machine or the company. I love my PT, and I feel Terry, and his staff do an adequate job of returning calls, and will in most situations, help in getting the problem solved.

There can always be improvements, and the company should be aware of any complaints or problems reported by commercial AND home owners alike. I may not have a fleet of PTs for business use, but my PT to me… is still a big investment.
/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Bob999 · May 21, 2006

Their sister company makes brakes for the mining industry, in fact is one of the largest mfgs of braking systems for that industry. Just because you don't agree with their system does not mean it is not safe. 

I presume you are referring to the "Brake Tender" that is used on the 1845 and certain other models. I have advocated the 1845 on this board for users working on steep slopes precisely because of the "Brake Tender" system.

Many of you have same models but made in different years with different components, thus creating confussion. 

If PT manuals provided with purchase were fully up to date, complete, and consistent with the model sold I would take this comment a bit more seriously. However, my experience is that the PT manual provided when I purchased my machine is not fully up to date and that it had missing pages.

Bob999 · May 21, 2006

Their sister company makes brakes for the mining industry, in fact is one of the largest mfgs of braking systems for that industry. Just because you don't agree with their system does not mean it is not safe. 

I presume you are referring to the "Brake Tender" that is used on the 1845 and certain other models. I have advocated the 1845 on this board for users working on steep slopes precisely because of the "Brake Tender" system.

Many of you have same models but made in different years with different components, thus creating confussion. 

If PT manuals provided with purchase were fully up to date, complete, and consistent with the model sold I would take this comment a bit more seriously. However, my experience is that the PT manual provided when I purchased my machine is not fully up to date and that it had missing pages.

Rip · May 21, 2006

Amen on the brake comments!! They DO know how to make a pretty good system for those that DEMAND real brakes, they just choose not to provide much to their non-mining customers. Too bad some unlucky soul will have to suffer physical pain (or worse) before they wake up due to some finacial pain.

Amen, again on the published "manuals" I got with my machine as well!!

Rip · May 21, 2006

Amen on the brake comments!! They DO know how to make a pretty good system for those that DEMAND real brakes, they just choose not to provide much to their non-mining customers. Too bad some unlucky soul will have to suffer physical pain (or worse) before they wake up due to some finacial pain.

Amen, again on the published "manuals" I got with my machine as well!!

BobRip · May 21, 2006

Just from the number of comments that this thread has received, I think this has merit. I always buy the OEM service manual for every vehicle I own. It sometimes gets expensive, but the payback occurs in one or two trips to the dealers that I don't make.
I would be glad to help.

I cannot find any copyright notices in the PT manual that I have. Does this mean that there is no copyright? Any lawyers here who could answer this?

Bob Rip

BobRip · May 21, 2006

Just from the number of comments that this thread has received, I think this has merit. I always buy the OEM service manual for every vehicle I own. It sometimes gets expensive, but the payback occurs in one or two trips to the dealers that I don't make.
I would be glad to help.

I cannot find any copyright notices in the PT manual that I have. Does this mean that there is no copyright? Any lawyers here who could answer this?

Bob Rip